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Old 03-06-2013, 03:17 AM
 
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I enjoy smoking marijuana regularly and I am an accomplished young professional with a graduate degree from Georgia Tech. Most of the regular marijuana smokers that I know are also accomplished professionals - many of whom earn six-figure salaries, so I believe your claim of some sort of achievement gap between smokers and nonsmokers to be false.

I also find your claim of most pro-legalization being whacko conspiracy theorists to be a little out of bounds. Most marijuana smokers I know are like me - we work hard and we are physically active. We are also active in our communities and perform our civic duties - i.e. vote. It's because of these reasons that legalization laws were passed in Colorado and Washington and it will be because of these reasons that more legalization or decriminalization measures will pass in more states.

Is marijuana without risks? No. Do I personally believe it to be safer than alcohol or tobacco? Absolutely and that belief is based on facts.
Everyone I work with smokes marijuana and they are all 50 year older or older and are the hardest working people I have known. It does not make them lazy nor behave badly. The people so opposed to it have no clue what they are talking about. As I have mentioned a million times previously, alcohol was banned and we saw what that caused. Crime went down when prohibition ended. People been smoking marijuana for a very long time and making it illegal hasn't stopped people from using it. All it has done is produce the largest prison population in the world, giving more tax payer money to prison CEOS and other financial benefits for a few who profit from it being illegal. This is a business and too much profit keeping it illegal. The same politicians and judges, etc, who are so opposed to it are usually the most new who do these things themselves and or have children who do it. Local courts make a fortune from marijuana.

We know that the chemicals in cigarettes cause harm and it hasn't stopped the companies from adding even more to it to keep people hooked. They won't ban it because it's too profitable and taxed highly. Marijuana is not this harmful and not even close, yet it's illegal. Is this really about health concerns? Smdh.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:31 AM
 
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Can someone please show me these "studies" showing that marijuana has more carcinogens than cigarette smoke? Because i'm wondering, I can think of thousands and thousands of people that die every year from smoking cigarettes but I can't even think of ONE person that's been reported to die from smoking marijuana. Not to mention that you can vaporize marijuana and avoid the smoke altogether. Anyone that believes that "study" is a moron. The carcinogens of composition between the two arent the same for one, and tobacco causes 400,000 deaths yearly in the US alone.



Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic

And still, there are no linked cases between marijuana and cancer, not even one. And a question for ATLTJL, do you even know when marijuana was made illegal in the US in the first place? It had nothing to do with how "harmful" it was. It was the simple result of a man running a smear campaign against it to ruin the hemp industry. Blaming "violence and driving people insane" on marijuana even though there were never any cases linked to it. Even then, there was a side agenda.
Statistics show that 500,000 Americans die from cigarettes every year. A survey had 47 million Americans admit to being marijuana smokers(note, there are probably more) yet I could not find any significant number of people dying annually because of it. 500,000 yearly yet it legal but marijuana which far less harmful is illegal. By the way, it isn't the tobacco itself that is so harmful but the chemicals and additives that are used to get people hooked. This is known and a fact. Why based the US government not punished the companies for doing these things? Thank tobacco has been around since ancient times and it was the Turks who invented cigarettes as we know them but they didn't contain harmful chemicals and there was no desire to get people hooked. This happened when giant western corporations got a hold of it and decided to turn it into a multi billion dollar industry.

It is this contradiction that keeps me shaking my head and makes me sick. These same people allow helpless people become homeless. Families with children are thrown in the streets because they're poor but there is a concern about health and marijuana is so dangerous? How anyone can not see a problem in this is puzzling, indeed.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Everyone I work with smokes marijuana and they are all 50 year older or older and are the hardest working people I have known. It does not make them lazy nor behave badly. The people so opposed to it have no clue what they are talking about. As I have mentioned a million times previously, alcohol was banned and we saw what that caused. Crime went down when prohibition ended. People been smoking marijuana for a very long time and making it illegal hasn't stopped people from using it. All it has done is produce the largest prison population in the world, giving more tax payer money to prison CEOS and other financial benefits for a few who profit from it being illegal. This is a business and too much profit keeping it illegal. The same politicians and judges, etc, who are so opposed to it are usually the most new who do these things themselves and or have children who do it. Local courts make a fortune from marijuana.

We know that the chemicals in cigarettes cause harm and it hasn't stopped the companies from adding even more to it to keep people hooked. They won't ban it because it's too profitable and taxed highly. Marijuana is not this harmful and not even close, yet it's illegal. Is this really about health concerns? Smdh.
It never was about health concerns and it never will be. Recreational drugs are criminalized for the purpose of having power over people, particularly poor people and people of color.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: ITP
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Everyone I work with smokes marijuana and they are all 50 year older or older and are the hardest working people I have known. It does not make them lazy nor behave badly. The people so opposed to it have no clue what they are talking about. As I have mentioned a million times previously, alcohol was banned and we saw what that caused. Crime went down when prohibition ended. People been smoking marijuana for a very long time and making it illegal hasn't stopped people from using it. All it has done is produce the largest prison population in the world, giving more tax payer money to prison CEOS and other financial benefits for a few who profit from it being illegal. This is a business and too much profit keeping it illegal. The same politicians and judges, etc, who are so opposed to it are usually the most new who do these things themselves and or have children who do it. Local courts make a fortune from marijuana.

We know that the chemicals in cigarettes cause harm and it hasn't stopped the companies from adding even more to it to keep people hooked. They won't ban it because it's too profitable and taxed highly. Marijuana is not this harmful and not even close, yet it's illegal. Is this really about health concerns? Smdh.
Amen.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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Check out this thread from the great debates section on marijuana induced psychosis. It is a very bad idea to make this garbage legal.

I used to be all for the legalization of marijuana until...
Good point. By that same token, the federal government should outlaw all alcohol as well, given the long term neurological effects that are possible with alcohol use.

Another option: treat marijuana as we do alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, fatty foods, and other potentially dangerous substances. Legalize it, and let people decide whether or not it's worth the risk.
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