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Old 02-07-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Pols propose lowering Hope Grant GPA requirement - Atlanta Business Chronicle
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Are kids who can't even manage a 3.0 in high school really college material?

Or does the HOPE scholarship also apply to trade schools and the like?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Are kids who can't even manage a 3.0 in high school really college material?

Or does the HOPE scholarship also apply to trade schools and the like?
HOPE can be used at about 25 different technical colleges in the state.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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The Hope grant is NOT for 4 yr universities, but only for technical colleges. In spite of that, I still think the bar will be set too low at 2.0. Perhaps if high schools brought back the technical classes that have mostly disappeared it would be apparent which students have an aptitude for tech careers, which can be lucrative.

By lowering the required gpa a full point, I worry that too many will go into a technical college just to "try it out", which would be a waste of Hope dollars. I think a 2.5 gpa is fair, but high schools really need a technical track first.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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The Hope grant is NOT for 4 yr universities, but only for technical colleges.
Oh, ok. I didn't catch that little word there. Hope grant != HOPE scholarship.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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I'm glad someone pointed out the grant part. HOPE SCHOLARSHIP will not be changed.

I think that the need for more technical school graduates and LESS college graduates is something that only very few people realize. After all, all the money these for-profit schools get, why would they say anything? We need a skilled trade school workforce as we do a strong college workforce. A student graduating from Macon State is simply not going to find a job worth the money he paid for his degree regardless of major. The cost-benefit analysis is a bust.

Pharmacy technicians, radiology techs, plumbers, physical therapy assistants, dental assistants and dental hygienists and other technical school grad positions are very important and in much demand. I don't know how I feel about the bar being set too low. All I know is that if there is an evident correlation between the number of technical school matriculants and HOPE GPA requirements - something has to be done. These young people are twiddling their thumbs with their unemployment. Better to lower the standard than to have all these people out of work indefinitely.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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I'm glad someone pointed out the grant part. HOPE SCHOLARSHIP will not be changed.

I think that the need for more technical school graduates and LESS college graduates is something that only very few people realize. After all, all the money these for-profit schools get, why would they say anything? We need a skilled trade school workforce as we do a strong college workforce. A student graduating from Macon State is simply not going to find a job worth the money he paid for his degree regardless of major. The cost-benefit analysis is a bust.

Pharmacy technicians, radiology techs, plumbers, physical therapy assistants, dental assistants and dental hygienists and other technical school grad positions are very important and in much demand. I don't know how I feel about the bar being set too low. All I know is that if there is an evident correlation between the number of technical school matriculants and HOPE GPA requirements - something has to be done. These young people are twiddling their thumbs with their unemployment. Better to lower the standard than to have all these people out of work indefinitely.

What universities are worth the money spent on the degree in Georgia? Just wondering.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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What universities are worth the money spent on the degree in Georgia? Just wondering.
Georgia Tech, probably for sure.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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What universities are worth the money spent on the degree in Georgia? Just wondering.
Georgia Tech, Emory, UGA, Mercer, GCSU, GSU, SPSU, North Georgia and GA Southern..maybe KSU.

Any of the bigger schools with decently bright students is a school worth attending. Obviously not everyone is going to go to UGA, Tech or Emory. In fact, most won't. Any reasonably good four year university is something I wouldn't mind kids attending. Schools like Albany State, Valdosta State, Darton State etc. enroll such poorly qualified students they just serve as a big money pie for loan sharks. When I say poorly qualified I mean academically. They're not good students. Sorry, not everyone is created equal. Stop buying that lie. Students that should be going to technical school to earn a respectable living are instead being sold the crap that everyone has to go to college. Most people don't even graduate anyway. What a waste of time, energy and money. tbh, dental hygienist make as much as nurses with 1/4 of the cost of education.

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2012 average SAT score and GPA:

Georgia Tech: 1365 3.76
University of Georgia: 1238 3.76
Georgia College and State U: 1160 3.42
Southern Polytechnic State U: 1141 3.28
North Georgia College and State U: 1117 3.51
Georgia Southern U: 1115 3.18
4-year university average: 1110 3.12
Kennesaw State U: 1089 3.20
Georgia State U: 1082 3.33
Armstrong Atlantic State U: 1016 3.16
Valdosta State U: 1015 3.12
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