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Old 02-10-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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HSR is like a mix between flying and driving. People who have flying fright won't be nearly as afraid to travel because they are on ground and it's much faster then driving and you don't use gas. You also get to see the sights(if there are any). Imagine a HSR through the Apps or Rockies or the Sierra Nevada or the California Coastline with the juxtaposition between the mountains and coastline. Beautiful, just Beautiful.
Have you ridden an HSR? I have. You are moving so fast that it gives you a headache looking outside as everything whizzes by. Besides, regular trains already give you this.
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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Nah, I've only ridden a regular train in China from Beijing to Xi'an. It was a night train too so I didn't really see much.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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I can fly to each of those locations in under an hour and a half for $300 round trip.

I can drive to each of those locations in under 6 hours (Miami and DC excluded) for about $70 round trip.

I can take a bus to each of those locations in under 8 hours (Miami excluded) for even less than that.

Why spend tens of billions (likely hundreds of billions ala California) to build a transportation system that likely won't be heavily utilized given the multiple either faster or cheaper alternatives? What is the HSR benefit that air travel and driving/bus don't provide?
do we honestly have to answer this?
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:48 PM
 
Location: atlanta
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do we honestly have to answer this?
it's a more convenient form of public transit for shorter distances, such as if you're going to greenvile, sc, or charlotte, nc. if you're going to new york, it's interchangable with flying, and if you're going to athens, it's interchangable with driving.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Awwwww. Can't debate?

The benefits of HSR and local mass transit are very different. You again are showing your ignorance and lack of knowledge with your attempt at snarky humor.

Come back like an adult if you want to talk about the topic.
I do not debate people when they do little more than troll.

To my ignore list you go.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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it's a more convenient form of public transit for shorter distances, such as if you're going to greenvile, sc, or charlotte, nc. if you're going to new york, it's interchangable with flying, and if you're going to athens, it's interchangable with driving.
Exactly. How much daily traffic travels between Greenville and Atlanta that could benefit from a multi-billion investment from HSR?

Does that make fiscal sense?
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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I do not debate people when they do little more than troll.

To my ignore list you go.


Can't defend your statements. We get it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: 30080
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I do not debate people when they do little more than troll.

To my ignore list you go.
lol, I see more people are finally getting hip to it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Exactly. How much daily traffic travels between Greenville and Atlanta that could benefit from a multi-billion investment from HSR?

Does that make fiscal sense?
Enough when you have people going to Clemson, Spartanburg and Charlotte on the same train. Perhaps even longer, Raleigh, Richmond, Washington D.C.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Enough when you have people going to Clemson, Spartanburg and Charlotte on the same train. Perhaps even longer, Raleigh, Richmond, Washington D.C.
"Enough?" That sounds like a very scientific number. Is that more or less than "a lot" and "some."

Yes... those big metro areas of Clemson and Spartanburg. If you just said Charlotte, you'd have a chance at sounding credible. HSR works in foreign countries because it is fast point to point transportation for large cities that are close to each other. The geography of the US doesn't allow for this except in some isolated areas. Even then, the capital costs of building the rail is cost prohibitive at this point. $100 billion for California's rail line? That is an astronomical cost for a system of that size. At least that system connects huge metro areas and isn't dependent on Clemson and Spartanburg for ridership to justify the expense of building the line.

How do you propose paying for this system? (I can't wait for this answer)
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