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Old 04-26-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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A key factor than in that is also sq footage of suburban homes is much larger. So you may have to trade off a smaller home to get in to the better Grady cluster at the same price you were paying in the burbs. But I bet you can find a cheaper home than the burbs in the Jackson cluster. Not to mention you can find even cheaper than that in other in-town areas if you don't have school aged kids.

It really comes down to a life-style choice: Do you prefer a large McManshion where you have to drive everywhere. Or something smaller, closer to your neighbors in a community you can walk around and take transit. And the fact is the 20-somethings they want to attract to work there are choosing the later and this downtown location will be far more convenient for them than the old location in the suburbs.
I don't think anyone would confuse any public schools in the city of Atlanta with the best schools in Cobb County close to where the office is currently. They certainly wouldn't call them better.

Obviously most people prefer the nicer home in the suburbs since over 10 times as many people live outside Atlanta in the metro area than inside the city limits.

So this location is better for 9% of the Atlanta population.

 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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Obviously most people prefer the nicer home in the suburbs since over 10 times as many people live outside Atlanta in the metro area than inside the city limits.
Correction: Most people of older generations preferred the suburbs. Look at the demographics of the people moving intown: young professionals.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Intown is too expensive to live anywhere that is safe with good schools. This is good for young people or " DINKS" but not people who have school aged kids.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Correction: Most people of older generations preferred the suburbs. Look at the demographics of the people moving intown: young professionals.
That's fine if all we want to do is cater to the young. But even these young professionals age and perhaps want kids.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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I don't think anyone would confuse any public schools in the city of Atlanta with the best schools in Cobb County close to where the office is currently. They certainly wouldn't call them better.

Obviously most people prefer the nicer home in the suburbs since over 10 times as many people live outside Atlanta in the metro area than inside the city limits.

So this location is better for 9% of the Atlanta population.
There are several City of Atlanta schools that are on par with the best Cobb County schools: Sara Smith, Brandon, Morningside, Jackson, Lin, and Springdale Park are among the best elementary schools in the state. Grady and Inman are very good as well.

It doesn't matter if this is better or worse for a particular % of the population. These people have jobs and they will go to whatever location they are required to go or find other employment. What is the big deal?
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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"McManshion" vs. Grady cluster is a false choice. Not everyone wants to (or can) throw almost their entire paycheck towards the cost of their home ("McManshion", Grady cluster, or otherwise).
People can and do buy nice non-"McManshion" family homes in the 'burbs with a 2K mortgage. What sort of family homes can you buy with a 2K mortgage in the 3 very good elementary school zones in the Grady Cluster?

Edit: and no, the quality of the schools in the Jackson Cluster does not approach that of most quality suburban schools. I know that some of the elementary schools have improved, but it is really not comperable at this point.

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A key factor than in that is also sq footage of suburban homes is much larger. So you may have to trade off a smaller home to get in to the better Grady cluster at the same price you were paying in the burbs. But I bet you can find a cheaper home than the burbs in the Jackson cluster. Not to mention you can find even cheaper than that in other in-town areas if you don't have school aged kids.

It really comes down to a life-style choice: Do you prefer a large McManshion where you have to drive everywhere. Or something smaller, closer to your neighbors in a community you can walk around and take transit. And the fact is the 20-somethings they want to attract to work there are choosing the later and this downtown location will be far more convenient for them than the old location in the suburbs.

Last edited by jeoff; 04-26-2013 at 12:00 PM.. Reason: Note on Jackson Cluster added
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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I don't think anyone would confuse any public schools in the city of Atlanta with the best schools in Cobb County close to where the office is currently. They certainly wouldn't call them better.
I don't understand that comment.

Many public schools in the City of Atlanta easily as good as the best public schools in Cobb or anywhere else.

APS schools such as Lin, Smith, Jackson, Morningside and SPARK are among the best in the state.

 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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JoeT..
It could be that old ITP/OTP thing again.
The anti-Atlanta animosity has been around for years & is a major reason why it has been 61 years since the last time Atlanta was allowed to undertake a large & meaningful annexation.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Intown is too expensive to live anywhere that is safe with good schools. This is good for young people or " DINKS" but not people who have school aged kids.
That's simply not so.

Many intown areas with outstanding public schools are bursting at the seams with young families with children. Check out Candler Park, Buckhead, Ansley, Virginia Highland, Morningside, etc.

Those neighborhoods are extremely safe as well.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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That's fine if all we want to do is cater to the young. But even these young professionals age and perhaps want kids.
They move in and continue the work to improve the school because they know there is no bigger impact on home value than schools.
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What sort of family homes can you buy with a 2K mortgage in the 3 very good elementary school zones in the Grady Cluster?
There are homes with that price in Old Fourth Ward, Home Park, Knight Park, Sweet Auburn, Castleberry Hill, Lindrige-Martin Manor, Woodland Hills, Capital Gateway, Centennial Park, Atlantic Station.
http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/cms/lib.../108/Grady.pdf
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