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Old 05-14-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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Wow, all this hate on the kid!

The only person that did anything obviously illegal was the principal, and her actions were much stupider than the kid's actions. She tried to abuse her power by getting one of her students arrested for embarrassing her! Really, she embarrassed herself, and then she lashed out at the kid for making it worse, which of course made it even worse.

But somehow the kid is the stupid one? The one who has no respect for the law? Really?



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Maybe not worth an arrest but potentially defamatory and in 17 states that is considered a criminal act.
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If this genius flunks out and can't graduate b/c he can't study at home, he deserves it. People do stupid crap in school but broadly proclaiming false information has implications.
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I can agree that attempting to arrest him was extreme. However, did this young man really believe that nothing was going to happen to him after posting the mugshot? We've all been teenagers, but it seems like this generation definitely does not think before acting.


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This generation seems to believe they are above the law, and have no respect for authority.


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And you have the parents to blame for that.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: 30080
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So wait, people are questioning the kids upbringing because he posted a pic that was public anyway? Principal was obviously just salty that it wasn't able to be swept under the rug. Yet I notice no one is questioning the principal's ethics for even being in that situation.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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Wow, all this hate on the kid!

The only person that did anything obviously illegal was the principal, and her actions were much stupider than the kid's actions. She tried to abuse her power by getting one of her students arrested for embarrassing her! Really, she embarrassed herself, and then she lashed out at the kid for making it worse, which of course made it even worse.

But somehow the kid is the stupid one? The one who has no respect for the law? Really?






This.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Default What Crime(s) Did The Principal Commit And Remember A Person Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty

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So wait, people are questioning the kids upbringing because he posted a pic that was public anyway? Principal was obviously just salty that it wasn't able to be swept under the rug. Yet I notice no one is questioning the principal's ethics for even being in that situation.
What Crime(s) Did The Principal Commit And Remember A Person Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty , Not
When They Are " Arrested " Has That Though Ever Crossed Your Mind (?)

Let's see what illegal activities was she involved in a traffic ticket or spitting on the sidewalk (?)
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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This generation seems to believe they are above the law, and have no respect for authority.
Well, when so-called "authority" is mostly corrupt, thieving, lying, cheating hypocrites (see: politicians, cops, teachers, school administrators, many parents, etc.) it's hard not to blame kids for rebelling.

Did you see that amazing video of that kid calling out his lazy teacher in front of the class? THAT is the wake-up call the youth of this country needs.

I'm 33, and I WISH we had the technology when I was younger that we have now to expose the hypocritical authoritarians in our midst.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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So wait, people are questioning the kids upbringing because he posted a pic that was public anyway? Principal was obviously just salty that it wasn't able to be swept under the rug. Yet I notice no one is questioning the principal's ethics for even being in that situation.
The public shaming the principal got isn't the issue. Her speeding charge/fines/public mugshot are plenty to cover her crime. Those mugshot websites propagate your image for years/decades unless you pay the extortionist sites to take it down. Sure there are plenty of people who pop up regularly in mugshots who deservedly remain the dredges of society but she's not exactly a secret child molester living in secret.

The fact is the student posted the photo and included false information (claiming it was for DUI) for the means of insulting/defaming the principal. There wasn't some secret hypocrisy here that the student uncovered that could change the school for the better. He was being mean spirited and defamatory b/c he wanted to ridicule an administrator. Obviously arrest isn't a realistic response but a suspension is perfectly reasonable. School is not a democracy and he isn't exercising free speech in this case.

A suspension is a pretty minor thing (probably should have taken it and moved on w/ life)...not exactly as big as making the news for being a #*$&*#% to an administrator and having it plastered all over the news in perpetuity and being searchable for all future potential employers. Personally, I'd never hire either of them for anything but as a kid he's not exactly off to a good start.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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I think the article stated that someone asked him on-line "what did she do?", and he responded a "DUI, I think." I take that as a conversation, sort of like what we are doing here, he makes a guess, but he pretty much states that he does not know for sure what the mug shot was for. It may stink that the county forced her to get a mugshot posted online for failing to show up in court for a speeding ticket, but that really is not the kid's fault. If the "facts" stated in the article is correct, she is taking out her misfortune on him, and that is her fault. The 'trying to get him arrested' part is what I find disturbing, if that part is not true (and it may not be), then I do not think that the 2 day suspension thing is that big of a deal. He may have been being disruptive enough to warrant a suspension.

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The public shaming the principal got isn't the issue. Her speeding charge/fines/public mugshot are plenty to cover her crime. Those mugshot websites propagate your image for years/decades unless you pay the extortionist sites to take it down. Sure there are plenty of people who pop up regularly in mugshots who deservedly remain the dredges of society but she's not exactly a secret child molester living in secret.

The fact is the student posted the photo and included false information (claiming it was for DUI) for the means of insulting/defaming the principal. There wasn't some secret hypocrisy here that the student uncovered that could change the school for the better. He was being mean spirited and defamatory b/c he wanted to ridicule an administrator. Obviously arrest isn't a realistic response but a suspension is perfectly reasonable. School is not a democracy and he isn't exercising free speech in this case.

A suspension is a pretty minor thing (probably should have taken it and moved on w/ life)...not exactly as big as making the news for being a #*$&*#% to an administrator and having it plastered all over the news in perpetuity and being searchable for all future potential employers. Personally, I'd never hire either of them for anything but as a kid he's not exactly off to a good start.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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To be clear, when I said "And you have the parents to blame for that." I was referring to the people talking down about 'this generation.' I'm not getting on to this kid, just tired of people blaming kids for the way the are when it's mainly the parents' fault.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: ATL by way of Los Angeles
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To be clear, when I said "And you have the parents to blame for that." I was referring to the people talking down about 'this generation.' I'm not getting on to this kid, just tired of people blaming kids for the way the are when it's mainly the parents' fault.
I understood you on that. Aside from the fact that we didn't have the same techonology, one of the reasons why stuff like this didn't happen back in the day was because our parents taught us the possible consequences of our actions. With this newer techonology, the conversation should get even deeper since there are more ways to stack evidence against a person.

Back in the day, if you got into a fight it was usually only witnessed by whoever was there at the time. Nowadays, kids can get in a fight and have it go viral in a matter of minutes. Those same videos often get the students into more trouble than hearsay or word of mouth would have if a teacher or administrator didn't witness the incident. Likewise, the same technology that the young man in the article used to put the principal on blast came back to bite him in the end.

I still feel that the principal had her own level of wrongdoing in this, but the kid is not in the clear here at all.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: 30080
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What Crime(s) Did The Principal Commit And Remember A Person Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty , Not
When They Are " Arrested " Has That Though Ever Crossed Your Mind (?)

Let's see what illegal activities was she involved in a traffic ticket or spitting on the sidewalk (?)
Her first course of action was to try to get the kid arrested...and when the police refused she had him suspended. She THEN had her profile removed from the clayton county schools site. With people like this running schools down there in Clay Co no wonder they're in the shape they're in.
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