Atlanta The New Hollywood (Savannah, Commerce: purchases, tax, places to live)

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by JoeP

How is my statement not reality based? I merely noted that subsidies which are significant to industry coming.
That's a big deal. Sorry if noting the reality that we are paying for this irritates blind cheer leading... and no it's not just GA that engages in it.

Are we, though? If Georgia were giving money to these companies, then I would agree that we are paying for it. But from what I know, the deal is that they get a 20% credit on income taxes based on their expenses over $500k. So, they have to spend money to get a "discount" on whatever else they pay. They don't just get handed cash which they can then run off with. Right?

[Newsboy]

Film and television production pumped $3.5 BILLION (that's BILLON with a B!) into Georgia's economy in 2012. We're only halfway through 2013 and production is already ahead of last year. DO THE MATH! It may still be only a fraction of what the entertainment biz pumps into California's economy, but it's still $3.5 billion that would NOT have been spent in this state without the incentives.

WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

What it comes down to is Tea Party nuts (and the like) thinking that ZERO state dollars should ever be spent on industrial development or job creation. But that's NOT the way the system works. If we followed that premise to the T, Georgia would get NOTHING ... and many companies could never afford to expand. You have to SPEND money to MAKE money, plain and simple.

[JoeP]

YOU: ... 100 years ago, not only was there a major Southeast film making city, that city almost was Hollywood since it was in the Eastern US and had great train access to NYC (money etc).

Pretty clear you're trying to draw correlations between JAX then and Atlanta now.

No, it's not a correlation. Just because you view it that way because you overly sensitive doesn't make it so.
You keep trying to argue.

Dude, stop flattering yourself and trying to insult me

Once, again, not insulting you. You seem to take any comment that isn't come Chamber of Commerce love letter very personally.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

Film and television production pumped $3.5 BILLION (that's BILLON with a B!) into Georgia's economy in 2012. We're only halfway through 2013 and production is already ahead of last year. DO THE MATH! It may still be only a fraction of what the entertainment biz pumps into California's economy, but it's still $3.5 billion that would NOT have been spent in this state without the incentives.

WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

Math. Math confuses them.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

Math. Math confuses them.

I've been known to have that effect on people.

It'll be interesting to see how much production is shifted to Atlanta. But it is somewhat of a zero sum game. Atlanta's boom is LA's pain

TV pilot production rebounds, but L.A. still losing business - Los Angeles Times

Although surprisingly, New York is a major player again, along with Vancouver, and Toronto.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

Film and television production pumped $3.5 BILLION (that's BILLON with a B!) into Georgia's economy in 2012. We're only halfway through 2013 and production is already ahead of last year. DO THE MATH! It may still be only a fraction of what the entertainment biz pumps into California's economy, but it's still $3.5 billion that would NOT have been spent in this state without the incentives.

WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

What it comes down to is Tea Party nuts (and the like) thinking that ZERO state dollars should ever be spent on industrial development or job creation. But that's NOT the way the system works. If we followed that premise to the T, Georgia would get NOTHING ... and many companies could never afford to expand. You have to SPEND money to MAKE money, plain and simple.

It's not so much Georgia's spending...it's the TAX BREAKS that is attracting Hollywood. Something that should warm the hearts of those Tea Party nutcases.

[Mutiny77]

I know studies have shown that the ROI when it comes to tax subsidies for the film industry are typically not worth the cost, but in GA's case, with the infrastructure that's coming to the state, I think it will be worth it in the long run.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

It's not so much Georgia's spending...it's the TAX BREAKS that is attracting Hollywood. Something that should warm the hearts of those Tea Party nutcases.

Except that those film people are mostly liberals! We don't want tax breaks going to liberals! Just good conservative folk like oil producers!

[shamrockfisher]

Originally Posted by Atlwarrior

I think its great that the Metro Atlanta can depend on so many different industries, when one sector of employment does not do well, there are others to fall back on. Atlanta clearly is the next great global city, once the transit thing get in order.

Keep dreaming. Not trying to troll here. That comment is just a little too far fetched.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

Except that those film people are mostly liberals! We don't want tax breaks going to liberals! Just good conservative folk like oil producers!

No, them film people are gettin' those tax breaks. Tea Party people and liberals can agree on somethings. And 'parently there ain't no oil in Georgia. But if there was...tax breaks for them for sure!