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Old 07-21-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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An interesting point in the article: Poverty rates have remained the same in Chicago even with the influx of wealthy whites.
SM, I know you are referring to Chicago. However, it's worth noting that down here the whites moving into the city are by no means all wealthy.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The following should help explain the demographic shift in Atlanta.

For the years 2000-2010

In NPU W (East Atlanta, Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Benteen Park), the black population went from 57.6% to 38.0%, and the white proportion rose from 36.5% to 54.8%

In NPU O (Edgewood, Kirkwood, East Lake area), the black population went from 86.2% to 58.7%, and the white proportion rose from 11.3% to 36.9%.

During those same years Atlanta lost over 30,000 black citizens while it gained over 20,000 white citizens. The black percentage of the total population went down almost 1.5 percent each year. At the rate it is changing the city will no longer be majority black in less than a decade.
To add to this comment: Tommer ES, which serves Kirkwood and East Lake, has seen a 500% increase in the number of white kids, but is still very diverse.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Atlanta - Midtown
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From Article: "Also on the Institute’s list are zip codes in not-quite-global cities such as Chattanooga, Austin, Atlanta, St. Paul, Indianapolis, Tampa, and Portland..."

Now I'm pissed
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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From Article: "Also on the Institute’s list are zip codes in not-quite-global cities such as Chattanooga, Austin, Atlanta, St. Paul, Indianapolis, Tampa, and Portland..."

Now I'm pissed
Don't be pissed. I, too, think that we are not quite there yet. But we are certainly progressing at a healthy pace towards being there. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it's exciting!
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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Don't be pissed. I, too, think that we are not quite there yet. But we are certainly progressing at a healthy pace towards being there. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it's exciting!
I was a little mad for a second. We have the comfort of knowing we're closer to being there than the other cities in the "not quite" group. I think any two of them combined would have a hard time competing with Atlanta, though I am biased. The next five years will push Atlanta into a new dimension.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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To add to this comment: Tommer ES, which serves Kirkwood and East Lake, has seen a 500% increase in the number of white kids, but is still very diverse.
We have talked about his before. Toomer isn't diverse. Outside of Pre-K, there are virtually no white students. This year, for example, 23 of the 54 white students were in Pre_k, leaving another 31 in grades k-5. Based on the data, it seems like many white kids are in pre-k, but don't continue onto K. (Does Toomer host other schools' pre-ks.) For example, in 11-12, there were 33 white children in pre-k and the next year there were 13 in kindergarten.

I think it is important to be careful how we portray things.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Grant Park
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For the years 2000-2010

In NPU W (East Atlanta, Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Benteen Park), the black population went from 57.6% to 38.0%, and the white proportion rose from 36.5% to 54.8%

In NPU O (Edgewood, Kirkwood, East Lake area), the black population went from 86.2% to 58.7%, and the white proportion rose from 11.3% to 36.9%.
Far south, southwest, and west Atlanta lost black populations at a similar rate that NPUs W&O did, but did not get the same influx of whites. Is that simply because of proximity to the established communities in east Atlanta (Inman, Candler Parks, et al)?

That's my story and that of many of my friends. We all rented in Midtown, Inman, Va-Hi before buying in Cabbagetown, Grant Park, EAV in the early to mid 2,000's.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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The trend started right before the Olympics. The systematic destruction of public housing in Atlanta plays a major role in gentrification. Those residents were dispersed throughout the metro Atlanta. Blacks have been living in the suburbs moving to Stone Mountain, Lithonia, Jonesboro, College Park, East Point, and others for decades.

Now those areas mentioned have decayed into areas that are not safe with public housing and section 8 vouchers playing a role in that. The seeds have been planted and it already has roots. 10-20 years from now, "Intown Atlanta" will be mostly white and blacks will live in the surrounding areas.

The west side is next and East Atlanta will continue with gentrification. Working closer to your job, access to MARTA, parks, restaurants, and others provide a quality of life better than living in the suburbs for SOME residents.

Like one person mentioned, people who have kids will still move to suburbs. I do believe once the quality of schools increases, then that trend will also decrease somewhat as well.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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The trend started right before the Olympics. The systematic destruction of public housing in Atlanta plays a major role in gentrification. Those residents were dispersed throughout the metro Atlanta. Blacks have been living in the suburbs moving to Stone Mountain, Lithonia, Jonesboro, College Park, East Point, and others for decades.
The closing of the housing projects definitely had a big impact, but blacks had already started moving out of the city of Atlanta in the mid-80s.

People have many reasons for deciding where to live. One factor that doesn't seem to get a lot of comment is that a lot of the young families who move back to gentrifying neighborhoods feel a sense of home there. These were often the neighborhoods where their parents or grandparents lived, and the old neighborhoods give them a sense of place and history.

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Old 07-21-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Yea! Why should white people be able to move wherever they want! They should be forced to stay in the suburbs where they belong. If they sneak in somehow, we should force all those crackers to live in every other house, then we can infill with black people! Gotta keep Atlanta black you know! Black people are never racist, but we all know every white person is secretly racist... this 'new urbanism' is just the KKK in disguise. Oh, and, don't worry about those Asians and Hispanics. Blacks are the only true minority in this country, so we deserve better treatment, sorry Pedro and Chang.


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