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Old 07-20-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Urban Atlanta and Gentrification:

The Persistence of Failed History:


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Old 07-20-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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We pretty much know that Whites are fueling the "back to the city" phenomenon, but it's not that simple. It's still a relatively narrow demographic, consistently mostly of yuppies, DINKs, and empty-nesters. Families with school-age children are still by and large overwhelmingly choosing the 'burbs; as a matter of fact, it's striking that this article failed to mention public schools at all. It remains to be seen whether this current trend will become sustainable over time to the point where such families begin making this move as well.

When it comes to Atlanta in particular, we know that several in-town neighborhoods are starting to see an influx of new White residents, but are we seeing any predominantly Black neighborhoods actually gentrify in terms of wealthier Whites moving in? Let's keep in mind that neighborhoods like the West End are seeing investment without gentrification, or at least the trends we normally associate with gentrification. Just today, I met a Black guy in his late-20's who has his own business and is renovating a 1950's-era house in the West End and expects to move in within a month or so.

Interestingly enough, I found this little tidbit in an article that identifies exactly which neighborhoods in DC are gentrifying:

"The report, which was first reported by Washington Business Journal, suggests that gentrification is not necessarily tied to shifts in the city's racial makeup. While D.C. writ large is indeed getting whiter, according to Census Bureau data released last week, many of the neighborhoods included in the gentrification report were overwhelmingly black a decade ago, and remain so today."
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:52 PM
 
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How do all these rich white dudes moving into places like Ormewood, East Atlanta and Capitol View justify themselves?
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Inman Park
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Yea! Why should white people be able to move wherever they want! They should be forced to stay in the suburbs where they belong. If they sneak in somehow, we should force all those crackers to live in every other house, then we can infill with black people! Gotta keep Atlanta black you know! Black people are never racist, but we all know every white person is secretly racist... this 'new urbanism' is just the KKK in disguise. Oh, and, don't worry about those Asians and Hispanics. Blacks are the only true minority in this country, so we deserve better treatment, sorry Pedro and Chang.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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We pretty much know that Whites are fueling the "back to the city" phenomenon, but it's not that simple. It's still a relatively narrow demographic, consistently mostly of yuppies, DINKs, and empty-nesters. Families with school-age children are still by and large overwhelmingly choosing the 'burbs; as a matter of fact, it's striking that this article failed to mention public schools at all. It remains to be seen whether this current trend will become sustainable over time to the point where such families begin making this move as well.

When it comes to Atlanta in particular, we know that several in-town neighborhoods are starting to see an influx of new White residents, but are we seeing any predominantly Black neighborhoods actually gentrify in terms of wealthier Whites moving in? Let's keep in mind that neighborhoods like the West End are seeing investment without gentrification, or at least the trends we normally associate with gentrification. Just today, I met a Black guy in his late-20's who has his own business and is renovating a 1950's-era house in the West End and expects to move in within a month or so.

Interestingly enough, I found this little tidbit in an article that identifies exactly which neighborhoods in DC are gentrifying:

"The report, which was first reported by Washington Business Journal, suggests that gentrification is not necessarily tied to shifts in the city's racial makeup. While D.C. writ large is indeed getting whiter, according to Census Bureau data released last week, many of the neighborhoods included in the gentrification report were overwhelmingly black a decade ago, and remain so today."
Tell that to all the parents pushing strollers in Kirkwood.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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Mutiny - "When it comes to Atlanta in particular, we know that several in-town neighborhoods are starting to see an influx of new White residents, but are we seeing any predominantly Black neighborhoods actually gentrify in terms of wealthier Whites moving in?"


Where have you been? Atlanta is the poster child for gentrification.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Yea! Why should white people be able to move wherever they want! They should be forced to stay in the suburbs where they belong. If they sneak in somehow, we should force all those crackers to live in every other house, then we can infill with black people! Gotta keep Atlanta black you know! Black people are never racist, but we all know every white person is secretly racist... this 'new urbanism' is just the KKK in disguise. Oh, and, don't worry about those Asians and Hispanics. Blacks are the only true minority in this country, so we deserve better treatment, sorry Pedro and Chang.
Ok
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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Where have you been? Atlanta is the poster child for gentrification.


Yes.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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The following should help explain the demographic shift in Atlanta.

For the years 2000-2010

In NPU W (East Atlanta, Grant Park, Ormewood Park, Benteen Park), the black population went from 57.6% to 38.0%, and the white proportion rose from 36.5% to 54.8%

In NPU O (Edgewood, Kirkwood, East Lake area), the black population went from 86.2% to 58.7%, and the white proportion rose from 11.3% to 36.9%.

During those same years Atlanta lost over 30,000 black citizens while it gained over 20,000 white citizens. The black percentage of the total population went down almost 1.5 percent each year. At the rate it is changing the city will no longer be majority black in less than a decade.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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An interesting point in the article: Poverty rates have remained the same in Chicago even with the influx of wealthy whites.

This tells me that middle class blacks are moving in great numbers to the formerly all white suburbs. I see this as a positive step, not a backwards step. I am sure many younger, upwardly mobile blacks are renovating and moving into formerly depressed areas as well.

I don't see how any progress is made by the central core being minority and whites living in the burbs. While core cities are losing their high percentages of minorities, the suburbs across the board are seeing a rise in minority populations, many times in very dramatic percentages.

Why is this not a good thing for everyone? The only drawback I see is our city centers are increasingly beoming polarized... Poverty or wealth. Where is the middle ground for the middle class?
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