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False. City of Atlanta only covers the northern part of the airport area. However, the city of Atlanta owns the airport even though it is not in the city.
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The airport is located mostly in unincorporated areas in Fulton and Clayton counties. However, the airport spills into the city limits of Atlanta,[10] College Park[11] and Hapeville.[12]
The only way this would work is if you split Fulton county in 3. North Fulton (Milton County), South Fulton (Campbell County), and an Atlanta consolidated city-county in the middle.
This might actually work out well sense all 3 of those areas have different interests. From an Atlanta standpoint it would be nice to keep all of the taxes paid in the city within the city.
You have the state constitution as an impediment to the number of counties. I'd incorporate Atlanta into DeKalb as it already has a portion in their county. Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official? Create Milton, then divide up South Fulton among its surrounding counties.
You have the state constitution as an impediment to the number of counties. I'd incorporate Atlanta into DeKalb as it already has a portion in their county. Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official? Create Milton, then divide up South Fulton among its surrounding counties.
LOL ... like ANY of the surrounding counties is going to willingly take South Fulton's problems?! When pigs fly and hell has a ski slope!
"Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official?"
Oh brother, are you out to touch. Consolidation in either Atlanta or Savannah is impossible. Both are adjacent to smaller cities with strong separate identities. Race is also a factor.
Atlanta is in Fulton County, not DeKalb. First of all, Sandy Springs is incorporated and wants to be able to grow. It will veto any plans for a merger of Atlanta-Fulton. Only a minuscule portion of Atlanta is in DeKalb County, so the GA legislature will never approve consolidation with ATL. As in Savannah, Atlanta blacks do not want to share power with more whites from the county. Both cities have black mayors, but with consolidation both would get more white mayors. And the majority-white county voters don't want to merge with black cities.
Lots of cities and counties "share a bond" in Georgia, but that's not sufficient for consolidation. Georgia makes it easier than other states to consolidate, but the process must have strong backing in the local city-county and all politicians have to be on board. Progressive forces joined up in the late 1960s in Columbus-Muscogee in the early 1990s in Athens-Clarke. There were no large incorporated municipalities to oppose consolidation in either one (just tiny Bibb City in Muscogee Co. and Podunk-size Hull in Clarke), so pro-consolidation folks had it easy. Also, county voters didn't oppose a merger of Athens-Clarke. Muscogee County voters did oppose it, big-time, but sleazy Columbus authorities officially added all votes together and the merger referendum passed (thanks to Columbus city voters). In Macon recently, the referendum had to pass separately in both the city and county. Macon and Augusta were majority African-American cities in decline, and blacks were willing to share power with whites for the sake of survival. Everyone, whites and blacks, got on board in the common interest of Augusta and Macon. Impossible in Atlanta or Savannah, where local opposition is fierce, where politicians will never agree to a merger plan to begin with, and where the GA legislature is loath to create more "big guv'ment" entities.
"Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official?"
Oh brother, are you out to touch. Consolidation in either Atlanta or Savannah is impossible. Both are adjacent to smaller cities with strong separate identities. Race is also a factor.
Atlanta is in Fulton County, not DeKalb. First of all, Sandy Springs is incorporated and wants to be able to grow. It will veto any plans for a merger of Atlanta-Fulton. Only a minuscule portion of Atlanta is in DeKalb County, so the GA legislature will never approve consolidation with ATL. As in Savannah, Atlanta blacks do not want to share power with more whites from the county. Both cities have black mayors, but with consolidation both would get more white mayors. And the majority-white county voters don't want to merge with black cities.
Lots of cities and counties "share a bond" in Georgia, but that's not sufficient for consolidation. Georgia makes it easier than other states to consolidate, but the process must have strong backing in the local city-county and all politicians have to be on board. Progressive forces joined up in the late 1960s in Columbus-Muscogee in the early 1990s in Athens-Clarke. There were no large incorporated municipalities to oppose consolidation in either one (just tiny Bibb City in Muscogee Co. and Podunk-size Hull in Clarke), so pro-consolidation folks had it easy. Also, county voters didn't oppose a merger of Athens-Clarke. Muscogee County voters did oppose it, big-time, but sleazy Columbus authorities officially added all votes together and the merger referendum passed (thanks to Columbus city voters). In Macon recently, the referendum had to pass separately in both the city and county. Macon and Augusta were majority African-American cities in decline, and blacks were willing to share power with whites for the sake of survival. Everyone, whites and blacks, got on board in the common interest of Augusta and Macon. Impossible in Atlanta or Savannah, where local opposition is fierce, where politicians will never agree to a merger plan to begin with, and where the GA legislature is loath to create more "big guv'ment" entities.
Interesting observations. Whatever the reasons people desire consolidation, the fact remains that both Savannah and Atlanta are thriving, growing, fiscally solid cities. That was not the case with any of the other city-county consolidations. The cities were dying and consolidation was for the greater good.
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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"Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official?"
Oh brother, are you out to touch. Consolidation in either Atlanta or Savannah is impossible. Both are adjacent to smaller cities with strong separate identities. Race is also a factor.
Atlanta is in Fulton County, not DeKalb. First of all, Sandy Springs is incorporated and wants to be able to grow. It will veto any plans for a merger of Atlanta-Fulton. Only a minuscule portion of Atlanta is in DeKalb County, so the GA legislature will never approve consolidation with ATL. As in Savannah, Atlanta blacks do not want to share power with more whites from the county. Both cities have black mayors, but with consolidation both would get more white mayors. And the majority-white county voters don't want to merge with black cities.
Lots of cities and counties "share a bond" in Georgia, but that's not sufficient for consolidation. Georgia makes it easier than other states to consolidate, but the process must have strong backing in the local city-county and all politicians have to be on board. Progressive forces joined up in the late 1960s in Columbus-Muscogee in the early 1990s in Athens-Clarke. There were no large incorporated municipalities to oppose consolidation in either one (just tiny Bibb City in Muscogee Co. and Podunk-size Hull in Clarke), so pro-consolidation folks had it easy. Also, county voters didn't oppose a merger of Athens-Clarke. Muscogee County voters did oppose it, big-time, but sleazy Columbus authorities officially added all votes together and the merger referendum passed (thanks to Columbus city voters). In Macon recently, the referendum had to pass separately in both the city and county. Macon and Augusta were majority African-American cities in decline, and blacks were willing to share power with whites for the sake of survival. Everyone, whites and blacks, got on board in the common interest of Augusta and Macon. Impossible in Atlanta or Savannah, where local opposition is fierce, where politicians will never agree to a merger plan to begin with, and where the GA legislature is loath to create more "big guv'ment" entities.
False.... I don't know where your getting your information from in regards to Augusta and consolidation..
False.... I don't know where your getting your information from in regards to Augusta and consolidation..
How about this? Augusta's previous high population prior to consolidation was 71,508 in 1950. The city recorded losses each census thereafter until 1990 when the count was 44,639 in the city limits. You have to go back to the 1910 census to find a lower population.
How about this? Augusta's previous high population prior to consolidation was 71,508 in 1950. The city recorded losses each census thereafter until 1990 when the count was 44,639 in the city limits. You have to go back to the 1910 census to find a lower population.
"Atlanta and DeKalb share a sort of bond so why not make it official?"
Oh brother, are you out to touch. Consolidation in either Atlanta or Savannah is impossible. Both are adjacent to smaller cities with strong separate identities. Race is also a factor.
Atlanta is in Fulton County, not DeKalb. First of all, Sandy Springs is incorporated and wants to be able to grow. It will veto any plans for a merger of Atlanta-Fulton. Only a minuscule portion of Atlanta is in DeKalb County, so the GA legislature will never approve consolidation with ATL. As in Savannah, Atlanta blacks do not want to share power with more whites from the county. Both cities have black mayors, but with consolidation both would get more white mayors. And the majority-white county voters don't want to merge with black cities.
Lots of cities and counties "share a bond" in Georgia, but that's not sufficient for consolidation. Georgia makes it easier than other states to consolidate, but the process must have strong backing in the local city-county and all politicians have to be on board. Progressive forces joined up in the late 1960s in Columbus-Muscogee in the early 1990s in Athens-Clarke. There were no large incorporated municipalities to oppose consolidation in either one (just tiny Bibb City in Muscogee Co. and Podunk-size Hull in Clarke), so pro-consolidation folks had it easy. Also, county voters didn't oppose a merger of Athens-Clarke. Muscogee County voters did oppose it, big-time, but sleazy Columbus authorities officially added all votes together and the merger referendum passed (thanks to Columbus city voters). In Macon recently, the referendum had to pass separately in both the city and county. Macon and Augusta were majority African-American cities in decline, and blacks were willing to share power with whites for the sake of survival. Everyone, whites and blacks, got on board in the common interest of Augusta and Macon. Impossible in Atlanta or Savannah, where local opposition is fierce, where politicians will never agree to a merger plan to begin with, and where the GA legislature is loath to create more "big guv'ment" entities.
Actually,Savannah only now has a black mayor.Its had a few white mayors in the past 20 years.
With Atlanta's black population dwindling,a white mayor will happen within the next two mayoral races after Mayor Reed will likely be re-elected.
Changing demographics in the city is definitely something to consider as a major factor.
So I'm not so sure I would say that it is impossible in our lifetime.
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