Turner Field Area = New GSU Campus? (Atlanta, Alpharetta: renting, credit, purchase)

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Gulch

You really have a hard on for "traditional" campuses don't you?

Unfortunately...it's not just me.

But it's not either or. GSU could have had the best of both worlds. There are other schools with multiple campuses. GSU lost a lot of ground to the other schools because they have traditional campuses. As a result GSU has been marginalized by a bunch of schools that used to be Junior Colleges when GSU had university status, and the only other state schools with university status were UGA and Tech. Now SPSU, KSU, Georgia Southern, U of North Georgia, and Georgia College all have average Freshman SATs higher than GSU.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Unfortunately...it's not just me.

But it's not either or. GSU could have had the best of both worlds. There are other schools with multiple campuses.

While not full fledged campuses, GSU's Alpharetta, Peachtree-Dunwoody, and Buckhead centers serve this function pretty well.

GSU lost a lot of ground to the other schools because they have traditional
campuses. As a result GSU has been marginalized by a bunch of schools that used
to be Junior Colleges when GSU had university status, and the only other state
schools with university status were UGA and Tech.

You're saying that it's GSU's fault the Board of Regents decided 15-20 years ago to make virtually every four-year public college in Georgia a university?

Now SPSU, KSU, Georgia Southern, U of North Georgia, and Georgia College all have average Freshman SATs higher than GSU.

Fair enough. I do think GSU could stand to raise admission standards.


ETA: IMHO, the only hindrance that GSU has had with a less-traditional campus is it's more diffcult for the university to purchase land for non-building related things like athletic fields and green space (classrooms, offices, and housing never really seemed to be a difficult issue when I was there in the late 2000s). The situation with the Ted's redevelopment can go a long way towards fixing that.

[residinghere2007]

Eh...I agree with another poster that GSU can develop more in the downtown area. There are many parking lots ripe for development and underutilized facilities for them downtown.

I would rather see Summerhill become a neighborhood again versus moving GSU over there. Plus I think whatever happens should be driven by Summerhill, Grant Park, Ormewood, and other east and south east neighborhoods in the vicinity.

[kferq]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Unfortunately...it's not just me.

But it's not either or. GSU could have had the best of both worlds. There are other schools with multiple campuses. GSU lost a lot of ground to the other schools because they have traditional campuses. As a result GSU has been marginalized by a bunch of schools that used to be Junior Colleges when GSU had university status, and the only other state schools with university status were UGA and Tech. Now SPSU, KSU, Georgia Southern, U of North Georgia, and Georgia College all have average Freshman SATs higher than GSU.

This is crazy. The top of GSU class has a good reputation among people involved in graduate school admissions (which is how I know about colleges). In fact, a much better reputation than all of the schools you mentioned except Georgia College. Looking at the Emory Med school admission numbers, it is number 4 in the state behind Emory, Tech and UGA (unfair to the smaller schools, I know since I am not normalizing to class size). The point is that GSU is doing just fine where it is. I don't even have to mention the fine quality of its graduate programs and research. Some of these other schools are doing well: Georgia College in particular is doing well and SPSU, KSU and GA Southern are getting stronger.

On the SATs, where are you getting your numbers? The 2012 data from About.com shows GSU with higher 75% percentile SAT/ACTs than all of those except the liberal arts school, Georgia College (both math and reading) and the engineering school, SPSU (the math scores pull them up).

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Furthermore, GSU is also one of the nations top schools in having students over perform their predicted academic success (from high school records and test scores) and one of the best for graduating a large fraction of their minority students.

[J2rescue]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Whatever happens to Underground, its new owner needs to rip out the 1980's Rouse renovations and de-mallify it. Make it an actual neighborhood.



Would be the most likely use for the land.

I agree on both counts.


With all that GSU has invested in its current campus, it would be incredibly wasteful to just try and move the entire campus. I do like the idea and believe it would be a win - win proposal to have some GSU functions on some of the property.

[coolieandre]

Georgia state is not going to have a traditional campus. It's a university in the city. So all these people who are hoping they transition into that will be dissapointed b/c it won't happen. They are spending millions focusing the center of their campus in another direction and currently are about to construct the campus yard/green...

[Saintmarks]

Is not the Turner Field site WAY too small to build a mega university campus? To plop a UT Austin or USC on that site would have to go all the way to Grant Park or beyond....

[Mostar]

The thing is GSU wants to become part of the city. Many people come to GSU to escape the 'traditional' college experience. Why would they want to change the one trademark thing they have?

[Marsha33]

Originally Posted by Mostar

The thing is GSU wants to become part of the city. Many people come to GSU to escape the 'traditional' college experience. Why would they want to change the one trademark thing they have?

I agree. Georgia State is going to have to just ride this one out. KSU's campus is a good hour from Atlanta. And GSU is having no problems finding qualified applicants. It's becoming more common for good students applying to get rejected. Before the Olympics GSU didn't even have dorms. It's always been a commuter school with well regarded programs. Only recently has it started to have more of a traditional campus life.

[Saintmarks]

Why not convert Turner Field into a home stadium for GSU and the parking around for other athletic facilities? Close enough to the campus. The current gym could make way for more classroom or dorm space. The dome is WAY too much for GSU football.