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Old 08-11-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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My car gets 22 miles per gallon, and holds 19 gallons. So I can go 418 miles on a tank of gas. Georgia gas tax seems to be at $0.075 per gallon. So I spend $31.35 on roads when I fill up.
Just going to stop you right there: $31.35 of your 19 gal tank does not go to roads. GA gas tax is 7.5 cents a gallon. That means a measly $1.42 goes to the 418 miles of Georgia roads you just used. Or about one third of one cent per mile.

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Old 08-11-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Dang it, yea, put the wrong number in the wrong place. Well, back to supporting a percentage then. At current gas rates, a 4% gas tax would more than double that $1.42 for me personally.
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Old 08-11-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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The city council has already approved an annual subsidy to this thing to help cover operating expenses.

How long will that last? Will it get larger? Do these subsidies ever go away?
It's Obama's fault.
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Old 08-11-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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It's Obama's fault.
No it's not, its the Congress/Government......I can't stand when people blame him.
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Old 08-11-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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Sure it does:
Well, it's hard to say where the Florida DOT comes up with those estimates or what they are factoring in, but I can tell you what the cost is in the real world.

For example, Sandy Springs just got bids on about 10 miles of street repaving.

Low bid: $3,314,692.08

See http://www.sandyspringsga.org/SandyS...--14-175_1.pdf
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Well, it's hard to say where the Florida DOT comes up with those estimates or what they are factoring in, but I can tell you what the cost is in the real world.

For example, Sandy Springs just got bids on about 10 miles of street repaving.

Low bid: $3,314,692.08

See http://www.sandyspringsga.org/SandyS...--14-175_1.pdf
Doubt many municipalities are as cost focused as Sandy Springs. Regardless, think that we can agree hundreds of thousands of dollars a mile just to resurface is nothing to write off. And will you not agree that rail track maintenance is lower that this and able to handle more volume?
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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No it's not, its the Congress/Government......I can't stand when people blame him.
I actually wasn't. Hence the winky smiley
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Doubt many municipalities are as cost focused as Sandy Springs. Regardless, think that we can agree hundreds of thousands of dollars a mile just to resurface is nothing to write off. And will you not agree that rail track maintenance is lower that this and able to handle more volume?
Oh, road maintenance costs can't be ignored. However, bear in mind that these figures are not recurring annual expenses. If they're like the roads in my area most of them haven't been touched in a decade or more.

Without researching it I honestly don't know what it costs to maintain a transit line. I think MARTA allocates about $100,000 per mile per year for maintenance of way.
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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I think MARTA allocates about $100,000 per mile per year for maintenance of way.
Which is comparable annual cost to a small highway that cannot handle as much volume as a rail line.

Standard / commuter rail will have even lower cost on track maintenance since there is no electrified third rail.
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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Which is comparable annual cost to a small highway that cannot handle as much volume as a rail line.

Standard / commuter rail will have even lower cost on track maintenance since there is no electrified third rail.
We'll since MARTA rail is so great it must be turning a great profit, right?

Surely it isn't heavily subsidized and still nearly $1 billion behind on maintenance.
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