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Old 04-10-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: West Cobb (formerly Vinings)
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Do these ignorant people not known that Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn are in the city of New York?
Do you ignorant people not know the history of New York City? The five boroughs—the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island—were consolidated into a single city in 1898

You need to watch who you call ignorant, or you make yourself sound stupid.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Do these ignorant people not known that Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn are in the city of New York?
Yankee Stadium

Bronx NY 10451

Mets stadium is in Queens. It has an NYC address just the same as the Braves will have an ATL address.

Whether they are annexed into the City limits is merely a political decision to increase tax revenues. Has zero to do w/ their actual location. They are both much further from the hubs of NYC than our Braves will be from downtown.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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You left out part of the definition.



Characteristic is the key part you left out.

Suburban in common vernacular is a style of development, typical of the 20th century outside of city cores, not necessarily the "main" city in a metro area. Many suburbs were of cities that later got swallowed up by other metro areas. East Cobb is a suburb of Marietta, historically, not Atlanta. Marietta is a suburb of nothing, technically. For instance, suburbs West of Trenton, NJ are not suburbs of New York City. They are suburbs of Trenton, regardless of Trenton being swallowed up. Trenton is not a suburb of New York. Providence is not a suburb of Boston.

Almost all of Buckhead is suburban. As is the area along Langford Parkway and OTP West of I-285.

Anything else is Atlanta-centric thinking, of stretching definitions to put Atlanta in the center of it all, and that kind of attitude just pisses people off.

Btw, EX-Urban DOES imply a certain distance from the urban core. Suburban areas, on the other hand, can be right in the urban core.
No, hipsters just define things that way. Suburbs is any city/town and area that isn't a part of the political boundaries of a main city in a metropolitan area. That's it.

While housing styles are more common in one or the other, the term is not exclusive. For instance, huge swaths of Queens in NYC having housing stock that is more commonly found in suburban areas while the cities of Northern New Jersey have block after block of dense rowhouses and high rises. Queens is not suburban however because it is part of the political boundaries of NYC while Northern New Jersey is not and thus suburban. Get it?
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: West Cobb (formerly Vinings)
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So, which is better?

The Atlanta Braves of Cumberland

The Atlanta Braves of Smyrna

And I realized I spelled Los Angeles wrong....

The Atlanta Braves of Cobb
The Atlanta Braves.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Canton
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You left out part of the definition.



Characteristic is the key part you left out.

Suburban in common vernacular is a style of development, typical of the 20th century outside of city cores, not necessarily the "main" city in a metro area. Many suburbs were of cities that later got swallowed up by other metro areas. East Cobb is a suburb of Marietta, historically, not Atlanta. Marietta is a suburb of nothing, technically. For instance, suburbs West of Trenton, NJ are not suburbs of New York City. They are suburbs of Trenton, regardless of Trenton being swallowed up. Trenton is not a suburb of New York. Providence is not a suburb of Boston.

Almost all of Buckhead is suburban. As is the area along Langford Parkway and OTP West of I-285.

Anything else is Atlanta-centric thinking, of stretching definitions to put Atlanta in the center of it all, and that kind of attitude just pisses people off.

Btw, EX-Urban DOES imply a certain distance from the urban core. Suburban areas, on the other hand, can be right in the urban core.


Oh ok...so if I build a small neighborhood Levittown style right next to BOA Tower...it's suburban...yeah...mmmhmmm....riiiiiightt.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yankee Stadium

Bronx NY 10451

Mets stadium is in Queens. It has an NYC address just the same as the Braves will have an ATL address.

Whether they are annexed into the City limits is merely a political decision to increase tax revenues. Has zero to do w/ their actual location. They are both much further from the hubs of NYC than our Braves will be from downtown.
Queens is a borough... in the city of New York.

Its not like the Braves who's only connection in name is via a postal address, which is meaningless.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Do these ignorant people not known that Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn are in the city of New York?
Ignorant? Seriously?

I have stood in both of those stadiums in the last 3 weeks. Have you? Have you ridden the sub from downtown NYC to both of these places? Have you seen how long it takes to get there?

Sometimes it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The Atlanta Braves.
I guess if we want to be inaccurate and deceptive we can go with the name. Why not be upfront about it?
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: West Cobb (formerly Vinings)
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Get it?
I agree to disagree. A city (an urban area) not THE city :-) Definition #2 may have been created by hipsters of the 20th century, but it stands on its own. I think it was more likely caused by the sprawl-out of metro areas to swallow up suburbs of smaller cities. Even Hartford, CT has its examples - e.g. New Britian and Manchester. The ESPN HQ is actually historically in a suburb of New Britian, not Hartford.

But New Britian is a small city. Marietta is a small city. Alpharetta is a small city. Providence and Worcester are NOT a small cities.

Again, you can't call Providence or Worcester suburban Boston.

You can call Framingham, MA suburban Worcester or Boston. Either is fine.

When Metro North is expanded to Springfield, MA, will you call metro Hartford and Springfield metro New York City? There's only so far you can stretch this concept of Atlanta-centric thinking.


Therefore, Acworth is suburban Marietta or Atlanta.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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Queens is a borough... in the city of New York.

Its not like the Braves who's only connection in name is via a postal address, which is meaningless.

You act like Cobb is in New Jersey. The stadium is literally less than 1-2 miles from the Fulton Co line . . . and right in the middle of what is known as metro ATL.
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