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Old 07-23-2014, 04:41 PM
 
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A "conservative" that lost because he removed the "Confedrerate Battle Flag" from the Georgia state flag.
Generally speaking a southern democrat was a consevative. Nathan deal would have been a democrat pre-2000.

 
Old 07-23-2014, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Home of the Braves
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the reason they hold such a command over the state legislature is undoubtedly due to gerrymandering. taking a look at the district map for the house, you can see several more liberal areas are 'cracked', such as athens, which has 3 districts covering the city that extend far into the country in order to create 3 solidly republican districts:
Gerrymandering is part of it, but a bigger part is just geography: Democratic votes tend to be highly concentrated in urban areas, so many votes are "wasted" in precincts where the Democratic candidate wins 90% of the vote.

Redistricting didn’t win Republicans the House - The Washington Post

In any case, it is what it is and it will take considerable time for demographic changes to create a "Democratic Georgia," even assuming the parties don't adjust course in the interim.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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Generally speaking a southern democrat was a consevative. Nathan deal would have been a democrat pre-2000.
He actually was a Democrat for his first term in Congress.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 07:40 PM
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He actually was a Democrat for his first term in Congress.
Kind of funny hearing Democrats complain about Republican ethics when nearly every single Republican leader in Georgia used to be a Democrat. The thieves are in both parties now instead of all of them calling themselves Democrats. They just steal in different parts of the state.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Generally speaking a southern democrat was a consevative. Nathan deal would have been a democrat pre-2000.
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He actually was a Democrat for his first term in Congress.
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Kind of funny hearing Democrats complain about Republican ethics when nearly every single Republican leader in Georgia used to be a Democrat. The thieves are in both parties now instead of all of them calling themselves Democrats. They just steal in different parts of the state.
Deal and his predecessor Sonny Perdue are liberal Democrats who became Republicans in name only. The trend has been liberal Democrats switching political parties to hold their place in office and fend off Republicans in their own party.

The Republican Party in Georgia will struggle in this year's elections if it continues to lean left and liberal.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Home of the Braves
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The Republican Party in Georgia will struggle in this year's elections if it continues to lean left and liberal.


Bunch a dirty hippies...
 
Old 07-23-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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We need to stop pretending that there is only "left" and "right". Issues are numerous and complex. I look forward to a close election with thorough debates that benefits the people of Georgia.

Hopefully neither candidate with march in lock step with the national party and people will look beyond the "R" or "D" on the ballot.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: atlanta
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Deal and his predecessor Sonny Perdue are liberal Democrats who became Republicans in name only. The trend has been liberal Democrats switching political parties to hold their place in office and fend off Republicans in their own party.

The Republican Party in Georgia will struggle in this year's elections if it continues to lean left and liberal.
only in nazi germany would nathan deal and sonny perdue be considered left and liberal. they are definitely republicans.
 
Old 07-23-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Deal and his predecessor Sonny Perdue are liberal Democrats who became Republicans in name only. The trend has been liberal Democrats switching political parties to hold their place in office and fend off Republicans in their own party.

The Republican Party in Georgia will struggle in this year's elections if it continues to lean left and liberal.
dear lord, if you think they are liberal.... I'm not even sure what conservative is anymore or what you'd call a real political moderate.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 12:36 AM
 
Location: West Cobb (formerly Vinings)
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Democrats vs Republicans is a continuation of the two-party system (originally federalists and anti-federalists) that has controlled the population through divide-and-conquer since the beginning of the country. If you can't have real balance, then people settle for balance of polarities. The system needs to be fixed.

Whereas, liberal vs conservative was concocted by the skull and cross-bones society and is another divide-and-conquer strategy.

Both of these systems are doomed as people become more aware. E.g. I expect the U.S. to become a multi-party system pretty soon.
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