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Old 08-04-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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Sometimes, there is absolutely nothing wrong with nimbyism. You make it sound derogatory. There is nothing negative about concerned citizens trying to protect their neighborhood in which they have invested time, energy, emotion and money.
The pejorative use of "NIMBYism" always baffles me, because unless you know what people don't want in their backyard, we can't categorically condemn their concern. And there are some things that almost everybody would not want to have in their backyard. If I said I didn't want people of a certain race to move in next to me, I should be roundly condemned, of course; if I didn't want a strip club, well, who does want one in their backyard?
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:38 AM
 
Location: O4W
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Sorry, Piedmont Park Conservancy, your beef is with the city of Atlanta, not the promoters of the event. They are paying money to the city to use the park. If the city doesn't put that money into the park, then you need to take it up with them. The event organizers are going through all the proper channels and are perfectly legal. So keep the argument where it belongs, with the city.

Why not talk to people who live near Chastain Park? How are they able to host an entire summer concert series, yet not get their panties in a wad every time there is a show?

It's like people who move to Lake Buena Vista and then complain about Disney traffic.

But back to the topic at hand...who cares what the Midtown Neighbors Association thinks? It doesn't look like they have any teeth to stand in the way of the event, so as far as I can tell, it's a non-issue.
I agree 100%!
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Chastain has an amphitheater to accommodate concerts. Piedmont has a grassy field. I think to compare the two is pretty disingenuous.
The damage left to the green by the last Music Midtown was pretty disturbing.
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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Chastain has an amphitheater to accommodate concerts. Piedmont has a grassy field. I think to compare the two is pretty disingenuous.
The damage left to the green by the last Music Midtown was pretty disturbing.
But the green was fixed, wasn't it? Isn't that what they pay for, so that the park can be fixed after they leave? It's only a 2-day event, I don't see what the big deal is if the park returns to it's previous state following the event, which it does and will continue to do. Yeah, it takes a little time to grow the grass back, but that's what the park is there for - large events that draw people to the city, as well as for the people who live around the park. Everybody in midtown knows that Piedmont Park is a huge draw for all kinds of huge events - if you don't like traffic, lots of people, and music, don't by a house in midtown. It's pretty simple. There are plenty of areas around Atlanta that are less crowded and more calm than the area surrounding Piedmont Park.
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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But the green was fixed, wasn't it? Isn't that what they pay for, so that the park can be fixed after they leave? It's only a 2-day event, I don't see what the big deal is if the park returns to it's previous state following the event, which it does and will continue to do. Yeah, it takes a little time to grow the grass back, but that's what the park is there for - large events that draw people to the city, as well as for the people who live around the park. Everybody in midtown knows that Piedmont Park is a huge draw for all kinds of huge events - if you don't like traffic, lots of people, and music, don't by a house in midtown. It's pretty simple. There are plenty of areas around Atlanta that are less crowded and more calm than the area surrounding Piedmont Park.
You are so missing the point. It's not lots of people we don't like - it's rude, disrespectful and destructive people. It's not the traffic - it's parking in my driveway and leaving your beer bottles strewn around my neighborhood. It's not music. It's not music at all. It's not that a little grass had to be repaired. It is that many acres of the park are so destroyed as to prove off limits for up to months at a time. It is that expensive shrubs are torn apart, that litter is mindlessly left all around.

These are endemic to MM. The Dogwood Festival? Not really. The ASOs Concerts on the Green? Not really. The Green Concert? Not really. MM? Absolutely.

This persistent attitude that all should suffer so a bunch of uninvested partiers should be able to act like hooligans and enjoy what ever they want, never mind to others' expense? Pathetic.
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:59 AM
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Sorry if I read something into your post you didn't mean, but you did mention getting to Lakewood was a hassle and I took that to mean that the hassle was a reason MM should remain in Piedmont Park. I just get very passionate about this particular issue!
My point was that a festival like MM should be in a location that is easy to get to via public transit.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: O4W
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My point was that a festival like MM should be in a location that is easy to get to via public transit.
That's why PP is the perfect location. Perfectttttt
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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It's amazing how many folks who don't live near Piedmont Park or financially support it feel like they know what's best for those who do.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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It's not the traffic - it's parking in my driveway and leaving your beer bottles strewn around my neighborhood.
People parked in Johns Creek to go to MM? Goodness, I did not realize parking was that bad!
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:05 AM
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That's why PP is the perfect location. Perfectttttt
I would't be opposed to them moving it to the parks right behind Inman Park MARTA station. Plenty of room, natural amphitheater shaped terrain, right next to MARTA, etc. I'm surprised they don't utilize those parks for music festivals.
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