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Old 12-16-2014, 07:46 AM
 
Location: 30080
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The funny part about the "people won't drive there" claims is that most people that went to the games drove down there from the northern suburbs anyways.



This is the Braves ticket holder map. Now looking where all of that red is, how do you think the most people got to the game anyways? Not to mention the blatant fact that the stadium is going to be a shorter drive for most of them now.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:49 AM
 
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As a guy who lives in Peachtree City (the solid red chunk on the south side) the new location is lame.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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What about commuter rail? Rail lines run right next to the Cumberland mall. Gameday service from the MMPT to Cumberland could connect the Braves stadium to downtown Atlanta.

I'm a proponent of commuter rail because, dammit, the rail lines are there. All you need is the train (and permission from CSX/NS, and a station at Cumberland as well as the MMPT, and probably track improvements).
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:06 AM
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Not to mention the blatant fact that the stadium is going to be a shorter drive for most of them now.
Shorter by distance, but probably not shorter by time.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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brownhornet - Don't think anyone has any doubt the Braves would not be moving to Cobb without the $400M tax dollars.

And with these sort of press releases the Braves put out, you wonder why fans from elsewhere besides the north / west metro feel un-welcomed as Braves fans now?

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Old 12-16-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Default Cumberland Mall to Braves: Don’t park on me

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Owners of the Cumberland Mall are concerned that the Atlanta Braves’ parking plan for the new stadium will include fans hijacking some of the 5,600 parking spaces at the mall, then riding a circulator bus to the ballpark.

That concern is outlined in an appeal of the building permit Cobb County issued to the Braves in November, allowing the team to proceed with construction of the foundation for a new 41,000-seat stadium, scheduled to open in April 2017.

Attorney George Butler, who is representing the mall and its owner, General Growth Properties, wrote that the Braves and the county plan to use mall parking spaces “precisely because neither Cobb County nor the Braves are willing to go to the expense of providing the requisite number of onsite or dedicated offsite parking reasonably required” for the new stadium.

The appeal quotes Braves’ executive vice president Mike Plant saying that a circulator bus will move fans from shopping centers, hotels and businesses to the new ballpark, called SunTrust Park: “If you’re at the Cumberland Mall and want to go to the mixed-use development, you won’t have to get back in your car in order to be mobile inside the Cumberland area,” Plant was quoted as saying.

That worries the mall’s ownership, Butler wrote in the appeal.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Shorter by distance, but probably not shorter by time.
Some of you seem to think that the traffic on the downtown connector is tame in the evenings lol. Traffic comes to a dead stand still from the north where 75/85 merges as late as 7 pm. So um...yea.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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brownhornet - Don't think anyone has any doubt the Braves would not be moving to Cobb without the $400M tax dollars.

And with these sort of press releases the Braves put out, you wonder why fans from elsewhere besides the north / west metro feel un-welcomed as Braves fans now?
Thing is, Braves are a business. They made a decision that would best benefit them AND put them closer to where the majority of their customers are. I mean, that's a pretty simple business decision.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Downtown Marietta
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Some of you seem to think that the traffic on the downtown connector is tame in the evenings lol. Traffic comes to a dead stand still from the north where 75/85 merges as late as 7 pm. So um...yea.
Same for 400 SB. Yes, 285 WB is no picnic from the Perimeter during rush hour, but neither is 400 SB... and then, as you rightly point out, those folks have to deal with the Connector.

I expect that for all of those north of the Brookwood split and west of 400, the new location will be more accessible, and the farther north you go, the bigger the improvement.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Thing is, Braves are a business. They made a decision that would best benefit them AND put them closer to where the majority of their customers are. I mean, that's a pretty simple business decision.
Of course it is a business decision. Liberty Media is a for-profit organization. This is not what is best for Braves fans or Cobb Co tax payers beyond the benefit they bring to Liberty Media's bottom line.

And $400M makes it a pretty easy business decision (especially if you are only planning on owning the Braves for another several years). A business decision that would not make sense without Tim Lee's generosity with Cobb County tax payer dollars.
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