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Old 12-18-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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corndog in 3, 2, 1...
Nothing else needs to be said. A $100 million is spent for a 1.3 mile streetcar route and they still can't get this done correctly. There is no punchline... The streetcar is the punchline.

 
Old 12-18-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Nothing else needs to be said. A $100 million is spent for a 1.3 mile streetcar route and they still can't get this done correctly. There is no punchline... The streetcar is the punchline.
Right and road projects are never delayed or go over budget either. I can't wait till the $1 Billion 400/285 interchange balloons to $1.5 Billion and gets delayed by a year, or that NW corridor boondoggle is two years behind schedule, falling apart, and costing $2 Billion instead of $800 Million.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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Right and road projects are never delayed or go over budget either. I can't wait till the $1 Billion 400/285 interchange balloons to $1.5 Billion and gets delayed by a year, or that NW corridor boondoggle is two years behind schedule, falling apart, and costing $2 Billion instead of $800 Million.
"But but but but..."

Pathetic excuse making. Hold everything to a higher standard and quit the excuse making. Truly a pathetic mindset.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: ATL -> HOU -> DAL
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I know the I 85 and GA 316 project finished a couple months ahead of schedule. A large part of that was the bad drought we had at the end of the 2000s. No rain to delay things.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Anyone remember, "We'll have it opened and ready by Spring 2014.". I do.

Anyone remember, "We'll have it opened and running by Summer 2014". I do.

Anyone remember, "We'll have it opened by Fall 2014". I do.

Anyone remember, "We'll have it opened by November 2014". I do.

Anyone remember, "Well have it opened by Mid-December". I do.

Now Reed is saying he pledges it will be opened by the 31st. I'm so embarrassed for this city. This is already a win for the anti-transit folks. I'm willing to bet 6 months after opening, the numbers will be another win for them, if it ever opens.

It was a chance for Atlanta to finally show everyone that they're ready to begin expanding their transit. They just failed. Failed. They really can't open a tiny 2 mile streetcar line on time? Really? Okay, I can expect a delay or two...fine! We're almost the next year they promised. And I know the Atlanta boosters will give excuses for the city, but that's not going to be the thing that gets more streetcars on the streets of Atlanta.

Embarrassing. Congrats to the post-driving/anti-transit crowd. A big win for you. Atlanta NEVER does anything right. It's become a joke.
Should of used all that money to build a mega parking garage somewhere Downtown... considering that would benefit more people.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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Should of used all that money to build a mega parking garage somewhere Downtown... considering that would benefit more people.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Should of used all that money to build a mega parking garage somewhere Downtown... considering that would benefit more people.
Yes, because one thing has anything to do with the other. The implication that this 1.3 mile toy will have one iota of impact on cars downtown or parking or congestion or commuting is ridiculous and disingenuous.

When waste and mismanagement are pointed out, it's great that the fanboys use the "but at least a mismanaged streetcar is better than an evil parking garage" excuse. Pathetic.
 
Old 12-18-2014, 09:44 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Yes, because one thing has anything to do with the other. The implication that this 1.3 mile toy will have one iota of impact on cars downtown or parking or congestion or commuting is ridiculous and disingenuous.

When waste and mismanagement are pointed out, it's great that the fanboys use the "but at least a mismanaged streetcar is better than an evil parking garage" excuse. Pathetic.
What would you have done with that money?

I like the idea of a mega parking garage, it can have its own on and off ramps that take you to right on to the freeway... that would be awesome..

Don't most commuters to that part of town get their by car anyway?
 
Old 12-18-2014, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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I'm trying to stay optimistic about the streetcar, and I hope that it will be open by December 31. Everything is in place, there have been frequent tests, everything is good to go. There's no excuse for it not to be open by the end of the month.

That's not to mention that the rest of the system is pretty far in initial development. This streetcar line will do little by itself, but the entire system (if built out) will make a pretty good impact. If this line is marred with more and more delays, all that will do is shake confidence in the streetcar and transit in general more so than it already has.

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Atlanta NEVER does anything right. It's become a joke.
Yeah, the City of Atlanta can't do anything right. What a joke of a city!

I mean, look at their falling population! Wait a minute...

Oh, well, look at their deteriorating economy! Wait a minute...

Never mind that, look at their sky-high third-world crime rate! There are people being shot, stabbed, and mugged left and right! Theft everywhere! Gangs roaming the innocent streets of Buckhead! Atlanta can't even police themselves correctly! Wait a minute...

Well, how about that corrupt Kasim Reed? That guy needs to be in prison! I mean, look at how he's turned the city into a corrupt mess and failed to do anything about the budget! He even wants to ask for a bond issuance to repair the city's infrastructure! What a loon. Can't he see that the city's bond rating is in the toilet?! Wait...

How about Hartsfield-Jackson? It's owned by the city of Atlanta, heh, check out that inefficient mess, there are delays, layovers, outages, and accidents everywhere you look! Atlanta can't even run its own airport correctly! Wait a minute...

Do you know how ridiculous that broad brush of a statement sounds? Some of you all seriously sell Atlanta short; no better than the users who sell Cobb short. I'm not some OTP-hating user (I've lived OTP all my life), and it is quite sad that the streetcar hasn't opened 'on time'. That being said, I'm not going to condemn the city and everything it does just because of that.

Besides, if Atlanta can't do anything right, why are places like Druid Hills trying to get in? I mean, DeKalb's not doing well, but Atlanta does everything wrong, so why are they trying to be annexed by the city? Turn back now, Druid Hills, before it's too late!

- skbl17
 
Old 12-18-2014, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Stop sounding so emotional like you been watching a Lifetime movie. Man up and have a conversation like a man and take the emotions out of it. I feel like I'm watching a Tyler Perry play or listening to a Keith Sweat cd. Btw your new nickname is Keith Sweat.


To answer your question streetcars take time. It's not like this is a skateboard the city is operating. It's a streetcar. It will launch by midnight on Dec 31st. They have to make sure they receive approval from state and federal authorities first. He just can't draw some lines in the street, put a streetcar over those lines and just operate it. It has to be federally approved to make sure everything is right. It is no difference than trying to get a license from the gov to run a business.

So stop with the emotional post dude. I see most of you all never ran a business where you had to get tons of approvals to operate. Well let me tell you it's a long process. Hell it's a long process to get an alcohol license let along approval for a streetcar. Hell getting state approval is a long process without even adding federal requirements. The darn thing will be operating soon. I see it every time I'm downtown. Just because it runs all day doesn't mean it is ready. Geezzzzzz. People are acting like the city is opening a Waffle House. It's a freakin streetcar in the streets with sorry driving idiots. They have to make sure this thing is as idiot proof as it can get because two idiots have already caused accidents with the streetcar already. They just trying to make sure the thing runs smooth.

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HAND CLAPS!!!

I don't get it either.The fact that it took a city like Houston and other cities like it to even have ANY type of mass transit (other than buses) is something they can be embarrassed about.
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In 2003, voters in the Harris County Metropolitan Transit Authority's (HCMTA) service area approved a referendum on the expansion of light rail. Tom Delay intervened, and overrode the voters' choice. Light rail expansion in Houston was blocked by the George W Bush administration for five years.
So what we are behind a few MONTHS at least its not FIVE years!

I have no doubt once it opens,it will expand just as fast as Houstons.
From what I have read they are doing more due dillegence due to safety concerns.

I think hindsight taken from other NEW systems is waying heavy on the decision to take it cautiously.Who wants a system that is gonna break down or be unreliable as soon as it opens?
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