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Old 12-25-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Oversimplification is simply that: oversimplification.
Given the well-known current deficit problems that have ballooned in Republican governed Kansas & Wisconsin, to name but 2 examples, having a Republican governor & legislature is not the magic bullet solution for having good or balanced state finances.
And given the extremely anemic population growth in Republican led, Wyoming, New Jersey, Kansas, Mississippi & Alabama, to name a few examples, having a Republican governor or state legislature is also not the magic key to having stellar, much less average population & economic growth.
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Old 12-25-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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I'll make a non-scientific observation, that with the exception of California, all of the states listed as having the largest growth have no income tax or relatively low taxation. 7 out of 10 also have Republican Governors. Total coincidence...possibly.
They are mainly Sunbelt states, and all are Southern or Western states--the last frontier as far as growth and development goes in the U.S. The Northern states are all mostly highly developed and have reached plateaus with respect to growth. And many of these states have been posting growth numbers like this for some time and have had Democratic governors also.
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Old 12-25-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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You can debate the reasons and additional factors, but the facts are, as evidenced by the Census Bureau and Congressional apportionment, that high tax states are losing population and lower tax states are gaining population.

The migration of businesses and individuals to the Atlanta area is prima facie evidence of this over 30 years.
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Old 12-25-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You can debate the reasons, but the facts are, as evidenced by the Census Bureau and Congressional apportionment, that high tax states are losing population and lower tax states are gaining population.

The migration of businesses and individuals to the Atlanta area is prima facie evidence of this over 30 years.
Exactly! Low tax states will lead the way from here on out. They are job producing states that offer affordable living prices. What's not to love about that?
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Exactly! Low tax states will lead the way from here on out. They are job producing states that offer affordable living prices. What's not to love about that?
Eventually they will have to raise taxes to pay for investments in infrastructure, social services, etc. that come with growth.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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Exactly! Low tax states will lead the way from here on out. They are job producing states that offer affordable living prices. What's not to love about that?
Cost of living, weather, and economic opportunity seem to have a bigger impact than tax policy on generating great population growth currently. Though you could argue tax policy affects COL and economic opportunity, but it is one component of many.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Cost of living, weather, and economic opportunity seem to have a bigger impact than tax policy on generating great population growth currently. Though you could argue tax policy affects COL, but it is one component of many.
But what do you think attributes to low COL and increased economic opportunity? Low taxes play a MAJOR role in that.
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Old 12-25-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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You can debate the reasons and additional factors, but the facts are, as evidenced by the Census Bureau and Congressional apportionment, that high tax states are losing population and lower tax states are gaining population.

The migration of businesses and individuals to the Atlanta area is prima facie evidence of this over 30 years.
This is a very oversimplified way of looking at things, and of course correlation doesn't equal causation. Otherwise, Mississippi would be the highest-growth state in the country and California would be the lowest-growth state.
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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This is a very oversimplified way of looking at things, and of course correlation doesn't equal causation. Otherwise, Mississippi would be the highest-growth state in the country and California would be the lowest-growth state.
Well of course it's oversimplified, but the fundamental basis of growth is pretty simple and the correlation between loss of population and loss of business from high tax states is well established.

I just love how folks will bend over backwards to try and disprove the obvious, but at the same time ask you to take on faith many things where no evidence exists.
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I'd also add forced union states versus right to work states as a factor, since most of the high tax, Democrat dominated states are forced union states.
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