Bill filed to annex new Braves stadium into Atlanta (to move, trains)

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i don't see why not. the bay area also has two teams. i think eventually we will probably have two MLB teams, albeit probably not now.

The Bay Area also is a split territory (which is why the A's haven't moved from Oakland to San Jose, the Giants won't let them). This is not the case here, where the Braves' territory includes the entire state of Georgia.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by JMatl

This isn't logical either. Cumberland needs to have a single seat ride to Midtown, Downtown & the Airport off of the Red/Gold lines as originally envisioned. The line across 285 to Doraville is a given, and has been proposed for years now.

Forcing a transfer at Five Points for an expanded Green Line to Cumberland would have miniscule ridership, compared to the originally proposed line north of Arts Center.

I was trying to be succinct. What I was suggesting on the 285 line was Cumberland to Perimeter to Downtown and then south. If MARTA instead of commuter rail went to Clayton County, it could be connected to that line.

On the green line, I don't see why transferring downtown to get north would be significantly different than transferring at the Arts Center. Neither would get a lot of Buckhead/Perimeter Mall traffic. Now if the two ideas were combined, you could have a circular route that went both ways-Cumberland to the green line to the east to East Lake or Decatur or Avondale through the Clifton Corridor to Lindberg and then either NE to Doraville and then across 285 or N to Perimeter Mall and then across to Cumberland.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Unless you build a new line, or quad-track the existing line, I don't think that will work. MARTA struggles to keep from being delayed with 5 minute headways, I'm not sure they could handle a third full line the entire length of the Red/Gold trunk. Yes yes, I know "BUT BUT! DESIGNED FOR 90 SECOND HEADWAYS!" Yes I know, but that's only the theoretical design headway, as a daily rider, believe me, the 5 minute headways are frequently a struggle already.

Is that a competence issue? I seem to recall New York doing it. Those trains are pretty close together.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by bu2

Is that a competence issue?

MARTA

MattCW

20 pages

[skbl17]

Originally Posted by Gulch

20 pages

Well, it's obvious that by getting rid of Keith Parker, everything will get better at MARTA! MARTOC will kiss the new GM's feet, billions of dollars in expansion money will fall out of the sky, and everyone ITP will abandon their cars and sing kumbayah while riding MARTA trains and buses. Get your head out of the sand and smell MARTA's bright future without Keith Parker!

- skbl17

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Gulch

20 pages

Not sure what your point was.

Mine was that if New York could do it, we could too with the right people. If necessary, hire someone from NY who knows how to make it work.

I don't think Keith Parker gets down into that level of detail. He's responsible, but some subordinate who's an engineer makes it work. And if it isn't working, that's a long term issue, not something that started with Keith Parker.

And since we don't have a 3rd line on the same track or anything under construction or being seriously considered that would do that, that's not a current issue. They are planning on stopping Clayton at East Point and it is planned as commuter rail, not HRT.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by bu2

Not sure what your point was.

That was a reference to this thread.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i don't see why not. the bay area also has two teams. i think eventually we will probably have two MLB teams, albeit probably not now.

Never gonna happen. One MLB team works fine for metro Atlanta.

Honestly, New York City could easily take on a third team, or perhaps Boston and a second team (no, not the Braves, please!). Baseball culture runs deep in the Northeast.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

Never gonna happen. One MLB team works fine for metro Atlanta.

Honestly, New York City could easily take on a third team, or perhaps Boston and a second team (no, not the Braves, please!). Baseball culture runs deep in the Northeast.

NY could support another team, but Chicago and LA are the only other areas that can really solidly support 2 teams in this day and age. Oakland is struggling a little. Atlanta certainly couldn't.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by bu2

Is that a competence issue? I seem to recall New York doing it. Those trains are pretty close together.

Of course it's not a competence issue. MARTA routinely handled one million + daily riders during the Olympics. It's an infrastructure issue. This isn't New York, and we don't have 4 track main lines.