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Old 03-03-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The southern stops to East Point, the western stops. Several stops on the eastern line has declined since the 80s-see Avondale/Indian Creek. In other words, about 50% of the path of MARTA.
Avondale is having a TOD developed on their parking lot and it's technically in Decatur, so you have no idea what your talking about. HE Holmes has seen a few new apartments built in the past 10 years. Kensington is the site of downtown DeKalb.
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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I purchased my home in Historic West End on the beltline for 165,000 in June 2013. Recently sold homes and comps around me today is for 230,000. There also is a current expansion of the beltline in my area that is on-going. Home values will only continue to increase.
230k is a stretch for that area unless its 2300 square feet or larger and completely renovated. I've been looking at 3 bed/2 baths in the area and $149k -$189k looks to be the current sweet spot for nicely done renovations. Home values will "likely" continue to increase for some time but people need to consider the risk and reliance the areas improvements have on Beltline funding/success.

The West End, Adair Park and the West side in general has tons of potential and my wife and I considered the area about year ago, however we bought in Edgewood due to the short term upside.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Historic West End
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230k is a stretch for that area unless its 2300 square feet or larger and completely renovated. I've been looking at 3 bed/2 baths in the area and $149k -$189k looks to be the current sweet spot for nicely done renovations. Home values will "likely" continue to increase for some time but people need to consider the risk and reliance the areas improvements have on Beltline funding/success.

The West End, Adair Park and the West side in general has tons of potential and my wife and I considered the area about year ago, however we bought in Edgewood due to the short term upside.
It's not a stretch two homes have just recently sold for that amount around me and most homes in Historic West End is over 1900 square feet.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:47 AM
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Avondale is having a TOD developed on their parking lot and it's technically in Decatur, so you have no idea what your talking about. HE Holmes has seen a few new apartments built in the past 10 years. Kensington is the site of downtown DeKalb.
The Avondale and Kensington areas are pretty scary. That's why May is proposing "downtown DeKalb" (which isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever). You don't build the county jail in a prime, up and coming area (across the street from "Downtown DeKalb" in case you weren't aware). Avondale Estates figured they would need 2 full time police officers if they simply annexed the Walmart there on Memorial Drive just down from Kensington. East Lake is starting to come back, but it has fallen a long, long ways.

Those areas used to be nice, but have declined. Areas with MARTA stations have declined as much as others have thrived. The saying is, "you can't push a string." If there's not some underlying strength in an area, these improvements don't change much.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:53 AM
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I agree with all of you that the west side has tons of potential. And I think Atlanta needs to focus on developing it as its relatively close in and has lots of underutilized and undeveloped property. But the Beltline will only help those areas that have underlying reasons to move up. If you had an area like Techwood was before they tore it down, it would stay bad.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The Avondale and Kensington areas are pretty scary. That's why May is proposing "downtown DeKalb" (which isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever). You don't build the county jail in a prime, up and coming area (across the street from "Downtown DeKalb" in case you weren't aware). Avondale Estates figured they would need 2 full time police officers if they simply annexed the Walmart there on Memorial Drive just down from Kensington. East Lake is starting to come back, but it has fallen a long, long ways.

Those areas used to be nice, but have declined. Areas with MARTA stations have declined as much as others have thrived. The saying is, "you can't push a string." If there's not some underlying strength in an area, these improvements don't change much.
Avondale station is Decatur city limits, the parking lot is being redeveloped into a massive TOD. Do you not follow the MARTA development thread?
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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From Curbed today:MARTA Mixed-Use - Curbed Atlanta
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Oh no, don't they know that area is bad.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Avondale and Kensington are scary? lol.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:43 AM
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Avondale station is Decatur city limits, the parking lot is being redeveloped into a massive TOD. Do you not follow the MARTA development thread?
I'm quite familiar with the area. Its been on a downward trend for many, many years. The argument was that rail magically transformed an area. That's clearly NOT the case.

This article is on Dallas, which now has the nation's longest light rail system at 90 miles, but its interesting and relevant. The readers' comments about the lack of development along the system (and their opinions on why) are particularly interesting.

hrrp://greatergreaterwashingtonpost.org/post/25858/would-you-have-guessed-dallas-has-the-countrys-biggest-light-rail-system/
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