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Old 03-10-2015, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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With all due respect, I can't keep up with your perceptions of what is real or what is fake. It seems to be based on a personal agenda over any type of meaningful measure.
Was the downtown built organically or master planned?
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Default Where is Roswell's?

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Alpharetta got one. Roswell's getting one. So John's Creek wants one.
Where is/would Roswell's be?
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Was the downtown built organically or master planned?
Savannah was planned.
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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Where is/would Roswell's be?
From the intersection of Canton Street and Woodstock Road south to the river. It is the downtown currently but is master planned for more dense development.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Savannah was planned.
But it was not built by one developer. What I'm trying to say is the 'fake' developer built, town centers.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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isn't it John's Creek that has that mandatory 1 acre parcel size?
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Do these fake downtowns ever work? I mean are they truly a live, work, play/walkable are or do they still force many people to drive and park, then explore and get back in their cars to go home? Traditional downtowns grew organically because of commerce and trade. This is a pie in the sky idea, because the size is too big for a city that's tax base is majority residential.
I don't get this idea of "fake" downtowns.

Every town started when some people got together and said, "Hey, why don't we build a few places here and call it a town? Maybe people will start coming here to live and/or do business."

A lot of times they were started in swamps, pastures or on the banks of rivers that routinely flooded.
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Do these fake downtowns ever work? I mean are they truly a live, work, play/walkable are or do they still force many people to drive and park, then explore and get back in their cars to go home? Traditional downtowns grew organically because of commerce and trade. This is a pie in the sky idea, because the size is too big for a city that's tax base is majority residential.
cq - What do you mean, "fake"? They are real bricks and mortar. Do you mean Atlantic Station is fake, as well? Or Buckhead Atlanta? Don't be so darn pessimistic.
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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I understand what he means by "Fake". it's basically planned and you wind up with a whole "town" all at once, as opposed to the natural development of a city. EG: A port of trade (harbor or railroad station), next comes the bank, then comes the saloon/hotel, and sheriff, then come the first houses for those people's families, and then the housing for the other various employees of things and so on and so forth.

All natural cities progress in this type of order. Atlantic Station unnerved me too. I've gotten to appreciate as the "new" has worn off though.
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Goodness. Such a distinction with no material difference. A rose by any other name...
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