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Old 03-10-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yeah okay.

At least we know where you stand, anyways.

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Anyone telling Arjay (with an excellent reputation on this thread and a thorough undestanding of the ins and outs of the workings and history of both Atlanta and the state of Georgia BTW) that he is ridiculous is the one that needs to just stop now.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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It's time recent arrivals realize the history of the state and why Atlanta is what it is.
Which is mostly due to progressive and visionary local business and civic leaders (e.g., Mayor William Hartsfield).
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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And when it comes time for Hartsfield to add a new runway, the idiots in the State Legislature will tell the airlines to land on I-285 if the existing runways are too crowded.

Nobody likes government waste, but there are too many Republicans -- and I say this as a registered Republican myself -- who really don't seem to understand how costly it is to maintain high-quality infrastructure. Say what you will about Joe Scarborough, but he was on the money when he said that Americans like Republican tax policy and Democrat spending. You can't have it both ways. You get what you pay for, and you pay for what you get.

Nobody likes government incompetence either, but I seriously doubt that the state of Georgia would do a better job of running Hartsfield than the city of Atlanta already does. It reeks of micromanagement, and micromanagement doesn't have to be exclusively a federal problem. Besides, if Atlanta wants to add a new runway to its airport, then who cares what anybody in Sandersville or Thomasville has to say about it?
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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Besides, if Atlanta wants to add a new runway to its airport, then who cares what anybody in Sandersville or Thomasville has to say about it?
"Well, I'll let y'all know that my grendson flahs through that there airport, so if I want a new runway, daggubit I'll get a new runway!" - Sandersville legislator

"They say that whether one goes to Heaven or Hell, you have t' change planes in At-laantah! That should b' reason enough for the state to control that there airport!" - Thomasville legislator



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Old 03-10-2015, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Which is mostly due to progressive and visionary local business and civic leaders (e.g., Mayor William Hartsfield).
Many of Atlanta's progressive and visionary leaders are from all over the state and moved to Atlanta. Thus the connection of Georgia to its state capital and in turn, its capital to the state. It wasn't always seen as an Us vs. Them dichotomy. That is a recent invention.

Some of these leaders and their hometowns:

Henry Grady, Athens
Martin Luther King, Sr., Stockbridge
Asa Candler, Villa Rica
John Pemberton, Knoxville (GA not TN)
Ted Turner, Savannah (born in Cincinnati, lived his childhood in Savannah)
Jimmy Carter, Plains (mentioned because of the effect of his Presidential Center on the city)
Robert Woodruff, Columbus
Truett Cathy, Eatonton

Just a few off the top of my head. Other influential leaders came from neighboring states:
John Portman , Walhalla, SC
Neel Reid, Jacksonville, AL
Coretta Scott King, Marion, AL

My point is that the city drew in the best and brightest the state had to offer. Again, said in my previous post, Atlanta did not happen in a vaccuum. To think otherwise is sophomoric.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:47 AM
 
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Many of Atlanta's progressive and visionary leaders are from all over the state and moved to Atlanta. Thus the connection of Georgia to its state capital and in turn, its capital to the state. It wasn't always seen as an Us vs. Them dichotomy. That is a recent invention.

Some of these leaders and their hometowns:

Henry Grady, Athens
Martin Luther King, Sr., Stockbridge
Asa Candler, Villa Rica
John Pemberton, Knoxville (GA not TN)
Ted Turner, Savannah (born in Cincinnati, lived his childhood in Savannah)
Jimmy Carter, Plains (mentioned because of the effect of his Presidential Center on the city)
Robert Woodruff, Columbus
Truett Cathy, Eatonton

Just a few off the top of my head. Other influential leaders came from neighboring states:
John Portman , Walhalla, SC
Neel Reid, Jacksonville, AL
Coretta Scott King, Marion, AL

My point is that the city drew in the best and brightest the state had to offer. Again, said in my previous post, Atlanta did not happen in a vaccuum. To think otherwise is sophomoric.
My point wasn't about historic state vs city antagonism or where Atlanta's local leaders were born and raised. It's the fact that local leaders, as opposed to state government, are primarily responsible for Atlanta's growth and development over the years.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Many of Atlanta's progressive and visionary leaders are from all over the state and moved to Atlanta. Thus the connection of Georgia to its state capital and in turn, its capital to the state. It wasn't always seen as an Us vs. Them dichotomy. That is a recent invention.

Some of these leaders and their hometowns:

Henry Grady, Athens
Martin Luther King, Sr., Stockbridge
Asa Candler, Villa Rica
John Pemberton, Knoxville (GA not TN)
Ted Turner, Savannah (born in Cincinnati, lived his childhood in Savannah)
Jimmy Carter, Plains (mentioned because of the effect of his Presidential Center on the city)
Robert Woodruff, Columbus
Truett Cathy, Eatonton

Just a few off the top of my head. Other influential leaders came from neighboring states:
John Portman , Walhalla, SC
Neel Reid, Jacksonville, AL
Coretta Scott King, Marion, AL

My point is that the city drew in the best and brightest the state had to offer. Again, said in my previous post, Atlanta did not happen in a vaccuum. To think otherwise is sophomoric.
How can you put the chick fil a guy on that list?
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Yeah okay.

At least we know where you stand, anyways.
Thank you!
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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Many of Atlanta's progressive and visionary leaders are from all over the state and moved to Atlanta. Thus the connection of Georgia to its state capital and in turn, its capital to the state. It wasn't always seen as an Us vs. Them dichotomy. That is a recent invention.

Some of these leaders and their hometowns:

Henry Grady, Athens
Martin Luther King, Sr., Stockbridge
Asa Candler, Villa Rica
John Pemberton, Knoxville (GA not TN)
Ted Turner, Savannah (born in Cincinnati, lived his childhood in Savannah)
Jimmy Carter, Plains (mentioned because of the effect of his Presidential Center on the city)
Robert Woodruff, Columbus
Truett Cathy, Eatonton

Just a few off the top of my head. Other influential leaders came from neighboring states:
John Portman , Walhalla, SC
Neel Reid, Jacksonville, AL
Coretta Scott King, Marion, AL

My point is that the city drew in the best and brightest the state had to offer. Again, said in my previous post, Atlanta did not happen in a vaccuum. To think otherwise is sophomoric.
Well said.
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