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Old 10-24-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Dear Decaturish - DeKalb Avenue improvements will make road safer – DecaturishDecaturish
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Sounds good, but there's not a lot of room to work with over there.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:11 AM
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Sounds good, but there's not a lot of room to work with over there.
Its a bad street for bike lanes. But the middle reversible lane is dangerous. Enough people don't understand it, so it needs to go away in favor of left turn lanes at the intersections.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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The proposal I prefer is removal of contraflow lane, but protected left turns at signalized intersections. Extend the Stone Mountain Trail from Rocky Ford Rd to Krog St and the Eastside trail. Narrowing the lanes and reworking the roadway with the ROW should provide enough room for a PATH and landscaped buffer.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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Dekalb needs to have the lane arrangement and general surface improved. That's sort of a universal consensus. It absolutely does not need bike lanes. Mclendon and other parallel streets are far better suited for bike traffic. I'm pretty sure there is a small yet vocal bike lobby pushing for these "complete street" projects with an unspoken goal of gridlocking any reasonable automotive thoroughfares. Once cars can't get anywhere, they'll be safely able to split lanes and run red lights with relative impunity, since nobody with 4 wheels will be able to move.

Without resorting to the safety argument, since there are much much much safer alternatives already paralleling Dekalb, What's the cost in annual lost productivity by adding 10 or 15 minutes to a typical commute down Dekalb avenue?
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Dekalb needs to have the lane arrangement and general surface improved. That's sort of a universal consensus. It absolutely does not need bike lanes. Mclendon and other parallel streets are far better suited for bike traffic. I'm pretty sure there is a small yet vocal bike lobby pushing for these "complete street" projects with an unspoken goal of gridlocking any reasonable automotive thoroughfares. Once cars can't get anywhere, they'll be safely able to split lanes and run red lights with relative impunity, since nobody with 4 wheels will be able to move.

Without resorting to the safety argument, since there are much much much safer alternatives already paralleling Dekalb, What's the cost in annual lost productivity by adding 10 or 15 minutes to a typical commute down Dekalb avenue?
Because the current "suicide lane" layout of DeKalb with no center turn lane is so much better.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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That center lane is freaking scary. When the arrows are pointing in a different direction than what people expect they just ignore the arrows altogether, and just use the lanes the way *they* think it should be used--that's what happened a few months back-- when the arrows pointed to an extra lane going west during the evening rush hour. Folks ignored the arrows and dove east on it anyways--and then there are the folks that use the reversible lane as a turn lane... Maybe the road needs cameras, and a lot more enforcement.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:42 PM
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Dekalb needs to have the lane arrangement and general surface improved. That's sort of a universal consensus. It absolutely does not need bike lanes. Mclendon and other parallel streets are far better suited for bike traffic. I'm pretty sure there is a small yet vocal bike lobby pushing for these "complete street" projects with an unspoken goal of gridlocking any reasonable automotive thoroughfares. Once cars can't get anywhere, they'll be safely able to split lanes and run red lights with relative impunity, since nobody with 4 wheels will be able to move.

Without resorting to the safety argument, since there are much much much safer alternatives already paralleling Dekalb, What's the cost in annual lost productivity by adding 10 or 15 minutes to a typical commute down Dekalb avenue?
There are some who would want suicide bike lanes on every street if it meant taking out lanes for cars.

But even a separated bike lane would be dangerous with the turn actions on this street. And McClendon is pretty close by and much quieter.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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I try to stay off DeKalb avenue so I am okay with them taking a lane for bikes.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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That center lane is freaking scary. When the arrows are pointing in a different direction than what people expect they just ignore the arrows altogether, and just use the lanes the way *they* think it should be used--that's what happened a few months back-- when the arrows pointed to an extra lane going west during the evening rush hour. Folks ignored the arrows and dove east on it anyways--and then there are the folks that use the reversible lane as a turn lane... Maybe the road needs cameras, and a lot more enforcement.
The only thing that's going to fix the problem is converting the suicide lane into a center turn lane.
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