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Old 03-16-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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It means you have a compost heap in your backyard, only buy organic fruit at the DeKalb Farmers Market, and you drive a Nissan Leaf.

It's just a modern hippie.

Of course, that's only been in the past 20 years or so. When I first moved here, Decatur was known primarily for lesbians.
I don't think the people composting in the backyard are the same ones spending $750K or more on all the new construction in Decatur. The new demographic for Decatur is well-funded families with one or more kids. Tesla knew what they were doing when they built a service center nearby.

Not that any of the stereotypes are particularly accurate . . .

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Old 03-16-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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A "granola"? What the heck....the heck does granola mean?
Some sorta cereal, I think...
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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A "granola"? What the heck....the heck does granola mean?
Granola aka "crunchy" means one is a hippie.
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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As one of 20 questions, we asked Atlanta newcomers what they've liked least about living here. Roughly 90 percent mentioned traffic, car culture, sprawl and/or the paucity of reliable transit options. Answers to other questions were heavily influenced by respondents' frame of reference (for instance, Atlanta is freezing right now for Floridians, but tropical for New Yorkers). When it came to transit and traffic, however, the chorus was almost uniform: Something's really wrong here.

Below, we've selected some of the more enlightening responses, as they pertain to gripes new Atlantans have. Names, ages and/or occupations were included when it added context to the response:

"I really don't like having to drive everywhere. I would love the option to get to work without a car on days I didn't feel like driving. I've gained 30 pounds eating southern food and not moving. -"L. Weiss, a 32-year-old construction executive from Queens.


"The lack of a cohesive, real city feel is a problem for Atlanta in my eyes. This exacerbates the traffic problems, the sprawl problems, and the infrastructure problems." - Victoria Gutierrez, 30, who's lived in Boston (most recently), San Francisco and Chicago.


"I hate the us-vs.-them vibe everywhere. It seems like there are so many stereotypes about individual neighborhoods, zip codes, sides of town (not to mention ITP/OTP.... although that's a lot more legit). If you live in Buckhead, then everyone south of Ponce thinks you're a snob. If you live in Decatur, then everyone thinks you're a granola. If you live away from the Beltline... well then you're nobody. I just think it's silly how about we get on the same team here and enjoy and appreciate the wildly different sections of our city? There are interesting and cool things about Capitol View AND Virginia-Highland, y'all." 25-year-old Julia Edwards, a teacher who most recently lived in Greenville, SC.


Full Story & Comments: Traffic, Transit Dominate List of New Atlantans' Complaints - New Voices Atlanta - Curbed Atlanta
I agree with the one I bolded above - there is a lot of divisiveness in Atlanta and its metro IMO. I also agree with below that I took from the website:

"I dislike a lot of the new construction apartments/city center things here why so much beige and stucco? Seems like the dominant 'look' is some sort of faux-Italian villa thing.

Seems like all the same architects build everything. And FWIW, I did work in housing and development of new apartment communities in Atlanta and I know that in many areas it is true they pick the same architectual firms and such. I always thought it was some sort of "good ole boy" network thing going on. Someone posted a recent article about the AIA institute having their convention in Atlanta in 2015 and how architects in Atlanta should be using their talents to re-create a 21st century Atlanta. It was a very inspiring article and I hope more diversity is used in design/builds going forward. Seems to me like they are either stucco/italianate or extremely modern blocked buildings and that's it. Many of the stucco buildings are even modern looking lol.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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"Have to" = "it is more efficient to". There are plenty of people who own cars in NYC; it's not against the law. It's just much easier to walk and take transit. That's kind of the point. If Atlanta's transit system were more comprehensive, people here would feel like they "had to" take MARTA to avoid the traffic.
I think we can make MARTA more comprehensive but people still won't ride it as much as you imagine they will. It has to be prohibitively expensive to drive/park in the city - that's one of the major reasons why people take transit in NYC. $8 tolls and $40/day parking will incite a lot more transit demand.
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Old 03-18-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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"Have to" = "it is more efficient to". There are plenty of people who own cars in NYC; it's not against the law. It's just much easier to walk and take transit. That's kind of the point. If Atlanta's transit system were more comprehensive, people here would feel like they "had to" take MARTA to avoid the traffic.
It's not more effecient for me. These commutes on the train and buses are ridiculous . They have too because most don't Have no other choice. I work part time at Equinox in Brooklyn heights. I live in Bedstuy. In a cab it takes literally 10 minutes. On the bus it will take 45 mins. By train 30 mins.

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Old 03-18-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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I think we can make MARTA more comprehensive but people still won't ride it as much as you imagine they will. It has to be prohibitively expensive to drive/park in the city - that's one of the major reasons why people take transit in NYC. $8 tolls and $40/day parking will incite a lot more transit demand.
This is what I mean 🙌🙌🙌🙌. ☝️☝️☝️

You have to move your car twice a week for trash pick up forget to do it and you my friend will be ticketed. It's a hassle even trying to find parking in the boroughs the up keep and insurance is high as hell as the roads in NYC are horrible .. Sometimes you have to park far away from your house because of limited space.

if Atlanta started building a more comprehensive system people will still drive heavily the only way to get people to ride it is too drive the cost up on highways with tolls and make parking expensive.
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Old 03-18-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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Folks who are unaccustomed to a culture of public transportation (that would be Atlanta and most of the transplants who have moved here) EXPECT transit to be faster than sitting in traffic. MARTA, however, many times, is not. I live right on the MARTA line and it takes much longer than to drive, in part because MARTA can be a little unpredictable.

At the end of the day, people are just doing a time-value-of-money/cost-analysis when making their decisions on transit versus drive. If I have to get up 30 minutes earlier to take the train, and I still need a car as backup, by the time I factor in the maintenance costs for the car I need on the weekends + insurance + monthly MARTA pass for work + time spent waiting--I'll just sit in my air-conditioned car, thankyouverymuch. For New Yorkers, the argument is much different.

Now, if MARTA operated consistently at the speed of light, didn't freak out when it rains, and didn't feel like a 120 degree 2000% humidity Louisiana swamp in summer, hey...I could be convinced.
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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What MARTA do you folks ride? The train I ride takes an hour, which is just as short as driving would be, and my route is a roundabout one (I go from well east on the Blue Line to well north of Arts Center). Maybe Google says the drive time is shorter than the train, but that time must have been recorded at 3am on a Sunday night or something because the times I have driven that route, the drive time is only comparable to the train time if I wake up extra early. It's hard to beat a train doing 70mph while you're crawling at 10mph if that.
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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What MARTA do you folks ride?

The train I ride takes an hour, which is just as short as driving would be,

and my route is a roundabout one (I go from well east on the Blue Line to well north of Arts Center). Maybe Google says the drive time is shorter than the train, but that time must have been recorded at 3am on a Sunday night or something
because

the times I have driven that route, the drive time is only comparable to the train time if I wake up extra early.

It's hard to beat a train doing 70mph while you're crawling at 10mph if that.
You do realize that your post is self-contradictory, right?
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