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Old 04-09-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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Are these the same ultra secret meetings where the videos are posted on the county's website?
Nope. Most the details were worked out where only a few Cobb reps at a time met with the Braves to avoid a quorum so they could avoid disclosure laws.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Nope. Most the details were worked out where only a few Cobb reps at a time met with the Braves to avoid a quorum so they could avoid disclosure laws.
Can't say I'm surprised. That seems to be the way most of these deals get started.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: georgia
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I am slowly becoming a fan of the Cubs. They have been in the same beautiful stadium a 100 years and are good to their fans and their fans are loyal in return despite the record long period without a world series win. But I am also hoping the Nashville or Charlotte gets a team so there is someone closer I can root for. And who knows, maybe a decade or so from now maybe the Braves will find new owners and decide a team is more than dollars and player stats and they actually care about their fans in Atlanta.
I beg to differ on the Cubs. They are not good to their loyal fans, since management rarely puts a decent product on the field.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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The Braves deserve 20 losing seasons. May the Cobb County Curse live on.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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I beg to differ on the Cubs. They are not good to their loyal fans, since management rarely puts a decent product on the field.
I am not a fair-weather fan like some. I support teams for the long term for what they represent / who they are far more than their win %. But since the Braves have shifted who they are so dramatically over the last few years I no longer see them as anything more than a perversion of the team I cheered for since I was six. They could win the World Series this year and I would still not be a fan. We will see what will happen with the Cubs or whatever team I decide to follow next. It will take years if I even find another team at all.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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It's hard for me to see how the Braves move to Cumberland is a big deal. They'd been stuck south of downtown for 50 years with no real development near the stadium and no control. The COA got absorbed in placating the Falcons and was already more than tapped out.

Fortunately Cobb stepped up and offered to fill the gap. The new stadium is closer to most Braves fans. It will be beautiful and is already sparking a ton of new development.

Seems like a win for all involved to me.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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It's hard for me to see how the Braves move to Cumberland is a big deal. They'd been stuck south of downtown for 50 years with no real development near the stadium and no control. The COA got absorbed in placating the Falcons and was already more than tapped out.

Fortunately Cobb stepped up and offered to fill the gap. The new stadium is closer to most Braves fans. It will be beautiful and is already sparking a ton of new development.

Seems like a win for all involved to me.
This is the bottom line. This is what the vast majority of the fans will feel. Web sites like this bring out those whose political biases get in the way and try to paint something that isn't as tho it is. I would like to see at least one of those that are butthurt put some pressure on the CoA for neglecting the Braves the last twenty years. "Hey, you got a new ballpark from the Olympics. Be happy." Pretty much what the CoA did to the team after almost 50 years.

The Falcons have done the exact same thing, are ditching an even nicer stadium for a newer one, used the lure of the suburbs to get the city to come calling. So, not enough to placate both teams? Like everyone else commenting here, I was not privy to the ins and outs, but it makes sense that the city can't roll over for everyone. So the Braves should be stuck in an OK stadium in a crummy part of town that the city refused to make decent for the team and took a better offer nearby? Makes sense. Not pleasing to all citizens? No answer would be. Stop being a fan because of this? YOU WERE NEVER A FAN TO BEGIN WITH.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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This is the bottom line. This is what the vast majority of the fans will feel. Web sites like this bring out those whose political biases get in the way and try to paint something that isn't as tho it is. I would like to see at least one of those that are butthurt put some pressure on the CoA for neglecting the Braves the last twenty years. "Hey, you got a new ballpark from the Olympics. Be happy." Pretty much what the CoA did to the team after almost 50 years.

The Falcons have done the exact same thing, are ditching an even nicer stadium for a newer one, used the lure of the suburbs to get the city to come calling. So, not enough to placate both teams? Like everyone else commenting here, I was not privy to the ins and outs, but it makes sense that the city can't roll over for everyone. So the Braves should be stuck in an OK stadium in a crummy part of town that the city refused to make decent for the team and took a better offer nearby? Makes sense. Not pleasing to all citizens? No answer would be. Stop being a fan because of this? YOU WERE NEVER A FAN TO BEGIN WITH.
Wholly concur, St. Marks.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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arjay - That narrative is part of the problem. There were dozens of redevelopment ideas CoA had drafted for the area years before. But for the Braves it all came down to the amount of tax money the Braves wanted. And the multiple proposals that are just waiting for the Braves to officially say they are going to leave the area are further proof that the Braves were the problem. So I agree that Summerhill will be better without the Braves.

The fact that the Braves and Cobb are making it so much about disowning their fans in the city and points south for those in Cobb is what is so disgusting. Braves had a proud history of diversity and supporting the entire metro and the south. They are shedding that past to cater to white fans in the northern suburbs.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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Yep. This thread has gone as expected.
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