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Old 09-16-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I think that has been due to migration patterns that revolved around a lack of boundaries/limitless cheap land around metro, and race. Gridlock is ending the limitless boundary thing, and while race still matters--it is not nearly as important as it once was.
Race has been replaced with classism, which is still related to race.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Augusta GA
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I mean just make it one large international shopping mall. The suburbs of Toronto are doing something similar (over 1 million sq. feet of space) and I think it would be cool if Gwinnett could do something like that. I love the vibe of international supermarkets and having a whole mall like that would sure be unique.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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The area is already saturated with international shopping.

The only hope it has for survival is retail that is more universally appealing to a broad market, not niche international options.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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I stopped by for the first time this weekend and I see why they want to tear it down lol
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Old 11-24-2015, 08:14 AM
 
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Oh yeah, those good ol' minority majority boys!

Hey, while you were sleeping, it became 2015. Check it out, you might like it.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Oh yeah, those good ol' minority majority boys!

Hey, while you were sleeping, it became 2015. Check it out, you might like it.
Gwinnett still has an all white and socially conservative elected board of commissions.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Any news going on here, or someone just randomly revived this thread for some reason?

Gwinnett should join MARTA, extend the Gold line to here, bulldoze this mall and most of the whole junky area that surrounds it, and just start from scratch with a transit oriented Atlantic Station type area, with office high rises, and dense apartments.
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Old 11-24-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Valdosta (Atlanta Native)
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Is there seriously nobody that wants to go to this mall. You'd at least think it would change to fit the diverse community there. They could learn something from Southlake. If they build a new one it's just gonna be empty because the residents aren't rich enough to shop at expensive places
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Is there seriously nobody that wants to go to this mall. You'd at least think it would change to fit the diverse community there. They could learn something from Southlake. If they build a new one it's just gonna be empty because the residents aren't rich enough to shop at expensive places
This is where we need to differentiate Gwinnett Place Mall and the Gwinnett Place area.

The Gwinnett Place area actually has a thriving diverse retail scene and there is a rather large amount of it. This is a key point that often goes overlooked from discussing just the mall.

The problem is a mall typically requires higher rents and caters more to affluence and/or those making the occasional more expensive than average purchase. It is usually more a destination-creating space. People park to go wander around for awhile... not to go into for a quick stop. The problem is the affluence just isn't there for Gwinnett Place Mall to coexist with the Mall of Georgia, The Forum, the Shoppes at Webb Gin, and Sugarloaf Mills.

It still has a good Macy's and a decent Sears.

The day to day shopping needs of most are typically found in cheaper to operate storefronts that won't be found in a large indoor mall. Those are doing better now than they were 5 or 10 years ago with the exception of 2 developments to the west. There are actually a few new multi-story strip malls in the area doing quite well. The problem is the diverse stores are better off congregating in their own spaces to meet day to day shopping needs. They are easier for quick stops and a small area can cater to specifics groups better.
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Old Today, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Proposal for 32 acres near Gwinnett Place Mall
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New rendering have emerged for a $250 million mixed-use project that officials hope could help revitalize the Gwinnett Place area.
The development dubbed Orchid Grove is planned for the site of the aging and largely abandoned shopping center currently known as Gwinnett Prado. The 32-acre property between Pleasant Hill and Old Norcross roads is just down the street from equally struggling Gwinnett Place Mall

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/photo...vrtMj4x9aCChK/
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