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Old 04-16-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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I would actually be more in favor of a Gwinnett Rapid Transit Authority that would build heavy rail and connect to MARTA.

I think we could do a better job designing it, building it, and operating it than MARTA could. I just don't know if the complications having two different systems would create...may not be worth it in the end and just put up with MARTA as kind of a necessary evil.
The problems (new trains, facilities, construction methods, etc.) of a new transit agency would far way out weigh just letting MARTA run the trains. Gwinnett Co. would also get far more reach by using MARTA's already established facilities and resources than trying to start completely from scratch.

Why do you consider MARTA an evil at all? Has the agency not, in the past few years, shown that it can manage itself responsibly while still progressing and upgrading?
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Old 04-16-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I would actually be more in favor of a Gwinnett Rapid Transit Authority that would build heavy rail and connect to MARTA.

I think we could do a better job designing it, building it, and operating it than MARTA could. I just don't know if the complications having two different systems would create...may not be worth it in the end and just put up with MARTA as kind of a necessary evil.
You would force people to transfer when connecting to MARTA because there is no way MARTA or FTA would allow 2 transit agencies to operate HRT on the same line. FTA may make GCT cooperate with MARTA on building any rail, they made CoA do this for the streetcar because MARTA has rail experience.
MARTA has proven that has changed and is a good steward of public money.
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Old 04-16-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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No
No what?
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Awesome. If they stuck it near Gwinnett Place Mall, maybe that could revitalize the area. Lenox and Perimeter aren't doing so bad after all.
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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Good news, but here's the "troubling" part: 50% said they would support a one percent sales tax to fund that expansion. That's cutting it very close; just a swing of a few voters and bam, no MARTA in Gwinnett County. It is an improvement compared to the 1990s, though, when support was much, much, much lower.

Bonus: There's only one comment on the AJC version at the time of this posting, but it's pure vein-popping gold:

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If Martas get hear we R movin 2 anoter palce with out Marta! Welcom Marta U welcome crime
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- skbl17
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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If Martas get hear we R movin 2 anoter palce with out Marta! Welcom Marta U welcome crime
Gotta love the trolls...
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:04 PM
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Unless Cobb joined at the same time, governance would be difficult. Gwinnett wouldn't want to be dominated by Atlanta and Atlanta wouldn't want to cede too much authority over MARTA. With Cobb joining, it would be easier to justify a new balance.
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Unless Cobb joined at the same time, governance would be difficult. Gwinnett wouldn't want to be dominated by Atlanta and Atlanta wouldn't want to cede too much authority over MARTA. With Cobb joining, it would be easier to justify a new balance.
In your mind. I am pretty sure that they did not ask "would you favor joining MARTA if Cobb joins too". The world does not go around Cobb.

The real question is how many years of being the only core county without MARTA will Cobb go until they join MARTA too? Any recent polls in Cobb? I bet it is disappointing.
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:13 PM
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In your mind. I am pretty sure that they did not ask "would you favor joining if Cobb joins too". The world does not go around Cobb.
You should learn to read more carefully.

When it comes down to it, if Atlanta still dominates the MARTA board Gwinnett is going to be very reluctant to join.
And with just Gwinnett, Atlanta isn't going to want to give up much power. Fulton Co would be 40% of the population and probably a much higher % of the sales tax.
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