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Old 04-23-2015, 01:09 PM
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How do you type in that straitjacket?
Right. Tax rates on the wealthy under Obama are just a miniscule fraction of what they were under Eisenhower. And that's just one difference.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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ugh...why can't America wait AT LEAST until the year of the election to start getting hyped about it...

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Old 04-23-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Home of the Braves
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Well, I mean, his foreign policy is probably to the right of Ike overall, but I think Obama's (sometimes frustrating) pragmatism is similar in approach to Eisenhower's "New Look" national security policy, particularly in regard to the emphasis on covert action and on strengthening and leveraging alliances and international institutions. Certainly, both were attacked from the far-right and the far-left. Both pursued basically a "do what you can" approach, which enrages the "do what you should!" ideologues on both sides (with different definitions of "should," obviously).

On the domestic front, of course Obama never accomplished big-government public works on an Eisenhower scale, but not for lack of trying. The signature liberal achievement of Obama's presidency was the ACA, but even then he backed a market solution rather than a government one (i.e. single-payer or nationalized healthcare).

In the heat of the moment, partisans aren't going to admit to any of this, certainly, but I think in retrospect, and given the differences in their eras, they'll both be viewed as basically pragmatic moderates.

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Old 04-23-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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Give me a good old Eisenhower republican or a Harry Truman democrat. Somebody with enough gumption to speak the truth and not be led around by the nose by nutball extremists on either side.

I would be good with either of these as well.

Although - to be fair - despite the Right's spin - or perhaps because the Right has gone so far to the Right, Hillary (and Obama as well) are not that flamingly liberal. They are Centrists, portrayed as leftists by the media.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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And I don't know about the rest of Atlanta, but I'm totally ok with another few years of democrats. We haven't quite recovered from the Bush years yet.

And I'm gonna need the WooWoo Right to please go away. Actually I probably won't be ready for another Republican until they move back towards the center and become more like Ike.

It scares the bejesus out of me that Lindsey Graham is the closest to Centrist the Repubs have got.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Well, stick a fork in it. It's done.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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For the people who have a below average IQ, Clinton is your candidate.

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Who do you think will win in the city of Atlanta? OTP?



The Democrats...Clinton, TBA



The Republicans....Cruz, Paul, Bush and Rubio
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:03 PM
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Well, stick a fork in it. It's done.
What's done?
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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What's done?
The country, judging from this this thread. Sheesh.
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta (Finally on 4-1-17)
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I think it may be a lower voter turnout for men but we will see. I don't think the average male wants a female president. ...generally speaking.

They can't say this in public but when men are in safe areas this is what they are questioning

On the flip side I'm sure they probably have to vote for her if the Republicans have a strong candidate.

I'm no political expert.....Fyi

Are you speaking in terms of men in general or conservative men?

What about "minority" men?
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