Man carrying AR-15 thru ATL airport claims harassment (bill, venue)

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by JPD

So, I can hang out at the airport all day, every day with as many assault weapons as my body can physically carry, but I can't wait in my car at the curb by baggage claim for 30 seconds waiting to pick up my wife.

The cops do get obnoxious around there, but I have to defend them a bit too. Flying as much as I do, I see way too many people try to sit there for awhile and no one understands how crowded it gets. Unless the person is waiting at the window looking outside or on curbside... it is never just 30 seconds.

I've had those moments where I'm waiting on my ride to pick my up and they waited at the cell phone lot until I called them, but there are too many people sitting blocking the right two most lanes.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Let's see, northern transplants move in, then try and force their irrational hoplophobia on the rest of us...nope, thought it through all the way.

You have a very shortsighted view of history.

[Hokiehaven]

All I want to know is, what are the laws on someone like this if they shoot a bystander in one of these inevitable attacks they claim to keep planning for, especially if there is proof of it.

There's a reason guns shouldn't be everywhere, it's chaos if something actually does happen.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by cwkimbro

That doesn't mean nothing. It provides information. It provides intent, which is pretty important in law. If anything it is telling that the Constitution framers go out of their way to provide intent, because they understand how important that clarification is and the potential for abuse.


The right to bear arms is for a well regulated militia, not some nut-job walking around the airport trying to get a stir out of people.


You should be really careful arguing in a cocky tone like that, because I think you might want to take your own advice on understanding the English language... and legal interpretation for that matter.

I understand "intent" and "meaning" very well. It is only relied on when there is ambiguity in the law. In this case, there is none.

Originally Posted by JPD

You have a very shortsighted view of history.

Care to enlighten us then?

Originally Posted by Hokiehaven

All I want to know is, what are the laws on someone like this if they shoot a bystander in one of these inevitable attacks they claim to keep planning for, especially if there is proof of it.

It will all depend on the circumstances. Most likely, nothing unless the person was being clearly reckless which in a defensive shooting situation would be extremely hard to prove.

There's a reason guns shouldn't be everywhere, it's chaos if something actually does happen.

Yes, the lawful gun carrier certainly just compounded the chaos here didn't he? Customer who returned fire at Rockdale County murder suspect called 'hero' | Rockdale Citizen

[cwkimbro]

To add to that Hokiehaven, what really worries me is kind of like what happened with that incident in Florida...

There is a gray area many people don't want to discuss about when people feel threatened, endangered, and try to justify the use of a weapon.

When someone is walking around with a loaded assault rifle right in front of them like that, it doesn't take much for the movement of that man's hands to be immediately threatening to others.

There is even potential for two people to be shooting at each other, but in court they could logically claim they were defending themselves.


Also, if we mix that with the arrogance and lack of knowledge of the law of this man, things could get dangerous quick.

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by MattCW

I understand "intent" and "meaning" very well. It is only relied on when there is ambiguity in the law. In this case, there is none.

You have two problems....

It is not only relied on in ambiguity. It is intent and purpose, which can direct how it should be regulated or not. There is a reason this was a state law change. It was never unconstitutional for the state to have had the laws that were previously on the books. This is actually a debate of state law if people wouldn't come in here butchering the constitution for their own purposes.

The second is there is still ambiguity on that part of the constitution. "Arms" are a far cry from what they use to be. Technically a nuclear warhead could be an a weapon, but we are not going to let the general public have access to them, but the purpose of the amendment was to form a well-regulated militia and it is unnecessary for individuals to carry nuclear warheads.

Just as it is unnecessary for someone to carry an assault rifle to an airport to pick up his daughter to be able to own a weapon and potentially be a part of a well regulated militia. This is why intent is crucial and it is very important and telling that the constitutional framers chose to comment on the intent directly in writing in the law on record.

[Jimrob1]

He looks like an arrogant jerk. His comment when asked about him frightening people in the airport was. "That is not my problem". Shows what a kind hearted load of trash he is. There is something wrong with him, and this constant gun culture is disgusting and out of control. It's as if being a peaceful person going about your business, is considered weak and un American now. Everything is the culture of guns and the rights to have guns. This man is a disgrace. He shouldn't have guns period, and gives a bad name to decent people that own them. I haven't worked at the Delta counter at the Atlanta Airport for many years now. However if I still did, and he came towards me with that damn rifle, and is allowed to walk away and its legal. It wouldn't last legal with me to long. I would have found a way to take Georgia's ignorant gun law to court. Enough is Enough of this bull. Innocent people are going to be killed for no reason, because of paranoid morons like that fool. Making his statement and a load of publicity for himself. If he can't go out in public without that rifle, or his other guns. Then he belongs in a mental hospital.

I think its high time people in this country start facing reality. Just what the hell kind of country are we running here, and how long can it go on with sicko's like this walking around. Along with the ignorant gun laws that help produce trash like this guy.

If I was his daughter pictured in the photo. I would be ashamed and embarrassed to be related to such a fool. However she is probably as messed up as he is. Another generation of fools.

[Tryska]

So I finally saw the video.

Dear mouthbreather - no cares about your lecture on your constitutional rights. Just begging for attention.

About 75% of my pro-gun control feelings are based on jerks like this feeling like they need to exert themselves on everyone around them.

The other 25% is well....guys running around with AR-15s and 100 round drums actively shooting people.

[Boris347]

Originally Posted by cwkimbro

When someone is walking around with a loaded assault rifle right in front of them like that, it doesn't take much for the movement of that man's hands to be immediately threatening to others.

There is even potential for two people to be shooting at each other, but in court they could logically claim they were defending themselves.


Also, if we mix that with the arrogance and lack of knowledge of the law of this man, things could get dangerous quick.

Best thing that could happen to these provoking clowns is to have a couple of them shot by citizens who viewed them as a "Home Grown" Terrorist wanna be. Its more than a reasonable conclusion that a man e in an airport with an assault rifle is not running on all 8 cylinders, same as a guy in a Movie Theatre with and assault rifle.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by cwkimbro

The cops do get obnoxious around there, but I have to defend them a bit too. Flying as much as I do, I see way too many people try to sit there for awhile and no one understands how crowded it gets. Unless the person is waiting at the window looking outside or on curbside... it is never just 30 seconds.

I've had those moments where I'm waiting on my ride to pick my up and they waited at the cell phone lot until I called them, but there are too many people sitting blocking the right two most lanes.

The reason I brought up curbside pick-up is because since 9-11 it's been enforced mainly for security reasons. Convenience and or congestion relief was just an afterthought, or maybe not even a thought at all.