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Old 06-27-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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That's just one opinion.

There is an awful lot of backlash to these so-called open workspaces. In fact, they are quite derided.
I sorta agree and disagree.

I think atltechdude is on to something important.

There are pros and cons to different types of office space and I think it is important to put it to use based on what the work is and what is needed.

I think the ultimate problem are cubicles and they are the office space for most people. They provide no privacy. You still hear all the extraneous noise and distractions around you, yet they prevent collaboration.

I know that if I'm processing a heavy amount of data and trying to write a paper I want to lock myself away, but I don't want outside noise and distraction. I want music that I can control and I don't want people stopping me for something really small when I'm in the middle of processing a thought.

I also like privacy when taking phone calls for myself, and from the people on the phone around me. People always tend to raise the volume of their voice or adjust how they speak based on the way the person on the other end of the phone speaks. That can be out of place and a distraction to others.

On the other hand say I have to draft a map of data and I need to process how to draw boundaries, the proper method for grouping tiers of data for visual representation, considering the artistic design of the map might improperly influence how someone reads the data, etc...

You can actually get alot of quick rapid feedback that doesn't slow you down in an open setting, friendly, collaborative setting. If I was in a closed door office, I would have to finish something... go ask someone... go back... re-do... repeat. If I'm in a collaborative environment we can all help each other on the stop quickly and it takes no time.

In both scenarios you have to watch out for 'group think.'
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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This makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Who wants to get on an elevator and go up and down when you can connect with somebody right there on the same floor?
yes I rather have tall buildings with no elevators
A 47-Story High-Rise Has a Tall Problem: They Forgot the Elevators | Video | TheBlaze.com

give the millennials something to really complain about! and make sure there is enough steel so they get no phone/wifi signals
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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I'm working remote from home now and don't miss the office one bit. No more 1 hour commute, sitting in traffic getting nothing done, having to wear uncomfortable clothes and maintain a wardrobe that I would never use outside of work, constant distractions from people that would rather talk than work, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. If I need to collaborate, I've got one word - webex. Let people work where they are most comfortable and for me that is at home.
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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yes I rather have tall buildings with no elevators
A 47-Story High-Rise Has a Tall Problem: They Forgot the Elevators | Video | TheBlaze.com

give the millennials something to really complain about! and make sure there is enough steel so they get no phone/wifi signals
Wow!

I didn't think that was possible... that is a reeeeally expensive mistake!

What I don't understand is if the problem was based on adding an additional 27 stories and the first 20 had elevator shafts, how would someone not have replicated the shaft from the first 20 stories... even if looking into elevator design changes were necessary was an oversight. I'm just surprised there was no duplication of the first 20 stories.
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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yes I rather have tall buildings with no elevators
A 47-Story High-Rise Has a Tall Problem: They Forgot the Elevators | Video | TheBlaze.com

give the millennials something to really complain about! and make sure there is enough steel so they get no phone/wifi signals
I don't think they would mind walking up and down as long as there are showers on the upper floors.
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Old 06-27-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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I don't think they would mind walking up and down as long as there are showers on the upper floors.
Every day is leg day.
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I don't think they would mind walking up and down as long as there are showers on the upper floors.
Just as long as those aren't a part of the open collaborative part of the work space.
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I'm working remote from home now and don't miss the office one bit. No more 1 hour commute, sitting in traffic getting nothing done, having to wear uncomfortable clothes and maintain a wardrobe that I would never use outside of work, constant distractions from people that would rather talk than work, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. If I need to collaborate, I've got one word - webex. Let people work where they are most comfortable and for me that is at home.
It sounds like this is a relatively recent change for you. You might feel differently after a while.

I worked at home for 5 years and have since returned to an office job. Even with webex/IM/email/phone/etc it felt very isolating after a while.
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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Every day is leg day.
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Just as long as those aren't a part of the open collaborative part of the work space.
You two are funny.

No more girly-man legs! And no collaborative showers!
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Old 06-27-2015, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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...Employers like them. Because they are cheap. That's why they push them and pass them off as something Millenials like.

I have yet to meet anyone, Millenial or otherwise, who likes working in an open floorplan...
Although I am not a millenial, I so agree with you. I have never in my life met anyone who liked working in an open workspace, a cube, or pod. I don't think it's even in our nature to like people walking up behind you. Any foolishness about freedom of colloboration is likely being said by someone in an office with a door or at least front facing oncomers.

Let's just call it what it is. In the days when telecommuting was less accepted, it was because management wanted to micromanage the frig out of you because they did not trust you to do your job. Plus it gave them something to justify while they were there.

This whole idea that anyone ever before millineals liked to work in an open floorplan could not be a newsflash.
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