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Old 07-01-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: 30080
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GA is still too backwards to approve this.
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Old 07-01-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: O4W
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GA is still too backwards to approve this.
But it's ok to have 30+ strip clubs
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Vine City has already been screwed beyond any recognition. Do you really think it can be saved? If so, how will being next to a demolished stadium be better than being next to a thriving casino?
I agree with your premise relating the casino. I think too many people are only focusing on the potentially ill effects of a casino. After much of my travels around the world and the state's I don't see them as something that merely drags down a neighborhood.

As for Vine City... I think the answer is yes. I don't see it being an expensive hip, gentrified neighborhood by any means, but I do think it can become a regular intown working class neighborhood again. The new development with a new wal-mart, townhomes and condos are actually in Vine City, albeit in the back corner.

It was just beginning to start getting nicer before the recession. Some will argue that it was the bubble alone, but I think it partly had to do with the increasing cost elsewhere in town. It is going to take time, but costs are certainly going up too high in other desirable neighborhoods.

The last thing to consider. I think this business with Morris Brown isn't helping. It is a dying college offering little benefit to the neighborhoods. I think it is time for that area to be reclaimed by another college that can add people and vibrancy to the area or another beneficial use.

Not an aging poorly kept campus with very few people. They sold off a good bit of the land, but they still control some key buildings/areas on the busy side of the neighborhood.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Only if they provide sports gambling, then people may be on-board, which of course will never happen!

But seriously, most places I've visited, that area of town is much worse because of it and are often littered with homeless, etc. I'm only thinking about multiple major cities in the US that have them. Seems like a risky endeavor. Now being in the tourist spot, could it be a serious draw, sure, but we're not Vegas, so why try to be.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:52 PM
 
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I like to gamble, but really think this is a bad idea. It will turn downtown into a trashier place than it already is. It will never have a Vegas-like feel. It won't even feel like the Harrahs in NOLA. Clean up all of downtown, don't make it dirtier.

If Atlanta gets gambling, I really think it should be somewhere outside of downtown. Maybe even up to 30-40 mins away in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:56 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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I've been against every casino suggestion because I've seen second tier casinos. They are sad pathetic places where poor people blow their money and are just utter dumps.

However, I've always said that if MGM would come in and build a complete Vegas style casino, I'd be all for it. These are the guys who know how to make casinos work and they keep the trashy element out.

I'd be for this. But I'd also be for language that requires MGM to operate the casino. If they ever pull out, it can not be sold. It goes to the city and must be dismantled as a casino immediately.
This. I've also been against every cheesy proposal we've seen in the past.

If MGM is really behind this, I think it would be fantastic. Anyone that has seen their casino in NOLA knows they run a tight & classy ship. There are no issues there with garbage happening around it at all, and it brings tons of revenue in.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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But seriously, most places I've visited, that area of town is much worse because of it and are often littered with homeless, etc. I'm only thinking about multiple major cities in the US that have them. Seems like a risky endeavor. Now being in the tourist spot, could it be a serious draw, sure, but we're not Vegas, so why try to be.
I don't feel it is the Casino that necessarily makes the area have homeless, etc... I think it is from where Casinos are generally located, partly by law and partly because they try to feed into the convention/tourism industry.

I mean look at our Downtown. It isn't that clean of a place as much as I want it to be. I don't think a casino will make it worse. If anything I think it will fill up space and make more attractive to the visitors already in town, particularly with something MGM quality.

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I like to gamble, but really think this is a bad idea. It will turn downtown into a trashier place than it already is. It will never have a Vegas-like feel. It won't even feel like the Harrahs in NOLA. Clean up all of downtown, don't make it dirtier.
Oddly enough... I was actually thinking of Harrah's when I don't think it will make downtown dirtier.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:03 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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I like to gamble, but really think this is a bad idea. It will turn downtown into a trashier place than it already is. It will never have a Vegas-like feel. It won't even feel like the Harrahs in NOLA. Clean up all of downtown, don't make it dirtier.

If Atlanta gets gambling, I really think it should be somewhere outside of downtown. Maybe even up to 30-40 mins away in the middle of nowhere.
Wow! I guess we have totally different views of Downtown. I personally think that things north of Five Points look better than they have in many years.

Just curious, but have you been Downtown lately?
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Old 07-02-2015, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Historic West End
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It would have to get past Gov. Deal, but with Atlanta's heavy convention and tourism I think it would do well. Visitor need something more than the aquarium, coke, hooters, and the civic rights museum in Downtown Atlanta.

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Old 07-02-2015, 01:33 AM
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Location: Atlanta
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^And the only way this could ever happen with him in office would be with some kind of under-the-table 'hush money' from MGM.

Then it would suddenly be the doors are wide open.
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