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Old 07-02-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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It would fit perfectly in the Gulch area.
Maybe in they could fill in the air space over the parking lot directly across the international plaza. Aslong as it doesn't interfere with the MMPT plans.



Or not, since that's land reserved for the Falcon's stadium...

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Old 07-02-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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I've been against every casino suggestion because I've seen second tier casinos. They are sad pathetic places where poor people blow their money and are just utter dumps.

However, I've always said that if MGM would come in and build a complete Vegas style casino, I'd be all for it. These are the guys who know how to make casinos work and they keep the trashy element out.

I'd be for this. But I'd also be for language that requires MGM to operate the casino. If they ever pull out, it can not be sold. It goes to the city and must be dismantled as a casino immediately.
Me too. At face value, this sounds like a horrible idea. But, if it were a classy joint then I wouldn't be entirely opposed.
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: O4W
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You do realize that a majority of those 3K jobs are going to be minimum wage type and aren't really going to be "new jobs" but rather taking jobs from other industries. Some like the construction jobs will be good, higher paying but they are temporary. But consider the small diner restaurant or local bar that gets put out of business because the casino has $5 steak dinners and $1 beers to lure in gamblers. So that small diner or bar staff simply starts working at the casino instead......5 jobs lost, 5 new workers at the casino....Not really 5 new jobs when you consider the whole picture.
A job is a job.
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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A job is a job.
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Home of the Braves
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I enjoy gambling, but there are lots of pitfalls:

* Powerful lobby rolling in money and an industry with less credibility than most
* Before the ink is dry, the lobby will start working to redirect revenues to casino "revitalization" and development
* Fear of a failed casino in downtown gives lobby immediate leverage to change the rules
* Casinos want to capture wallets (entertainment, dining, etc.); city wants traffic between casino and other businesses and attractions
* Need regional, interstate draw to avoid displacement or substitution effects (locals spend money at casinos instead of other Atlanta businesses)
* They will say "classy," but even classy casinos operate on volume and feast on the poor and elderly

Best case, you can add a nice entertainment attraction over which the state owns a monopoly and can command very high tax rates. Worst case, you get Atlantic City.
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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To me, it's just another entertainment option. When I visit my hometown, I enjoy going to the casino in Niagara Falls, N.Y. It might not be quite Las Vegas quality, but it's very nice and it's a fun afternoon or night out. Of course, I usually lose money... but I have a pre-set limit and I don't go to the debit machine to withdraw more money when I run out.

All that said, I don't think this casino will ever happen here. There will be way too much opposition.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I like to gamble, but really think this is a bad idea. It will turn downtown into a trashier place than it already is. It will never have a Vegas-like feel. It won't even feel like the Harrahs in NOLA. Clean up all of downtown, don't make it dirtier.

If Atlanta gets gambling, I really think it should be somewhere outside of downtown. Maybe even up to 30-40 mins away in the middle of nowhere.
I frequent downtown daily, and it being dirty is so not true...
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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As a downtown resident, I'm oppose this unless there are 5k of housing added before it's built. Until there are residence in place to hold this project accountable, I feel it will be nothing more than a political bargaining tool. Politicians will have no one to answer to if no one lives downtown to complain.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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I think it's inevitable that soon after Deal is out of office the casinos are coming to Georgia and Atlanta. It seems he's the biggest opposer imaginable to these things and it's hard to see his successor, whoever that is being as adamant about it.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Best case, you can add a nice entertainment attraction over which the state owns a monopoly and can command very high tax rates. Worst case, you get Atlantic City.
This.
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