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Old 03-31-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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But who rides Marta 2-3 stops? Not many. Most people ride it a fair ways, like Doraville - downtown. Think of all the people who ride it from Sandy Springs to downtown and beyond - don't you think having to pay $9 a day is too much of a burden? Keep in mind half of all workers make <30,000 a year - $9 a day is a lot of money for most folks.

Let's get the min wage up to $15 an hour and then maybe we can talk.

If I had my way, Marta would be free - yes, free. Think of all the traffic this would pull off our overcrowded road system. Slap an extra 10 cents gas tax to pay for it. Problem solved.
$9 a day too much? Hmm. Gas, parking, wear and tear on your car is likely more than that. And free? Nah. It's already subsidized quite a bit. Why do folks want everything for free?
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Old 03-31-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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$9 a day too much? Hmm. Gas, parking, wear and tear on your car is likely more than that. And free? Nah. It's already subsidized quite a bit. Why do folks want everything for free?
It's less "free" and more "they want others to pay for it."
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Old 03-31-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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Yeah, it's a nice thought if you don't think into it too deeply but "free" doesn't work. It's like, "free ice cream" sounds like a great idea. Who would vote against a law like that? But of course in reality it doesn't work.
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Yeah, it's a nice thought if you don't think into it too deeply but "free" doesn't work. It's like, "free ice cream" sounds like a great idea. Who would vote against a law like that? But of course in reality it doesn't work.
And yet, you want everyone else to pay for your lifestyle so you can get what YOu want for "free."
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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And yet, you want everyone else to pay for your lifestyle so you can get what YOu want for "free."
What am I wanting for "free" with my "lifestyle"?
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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What am I wanting for "free" with my "lifestyle"?
You want to push the burden of paying for infrastructure to just the riders instead of everyone that benefits from it. The only reason you would want to do that is so you can sit back, pay for nothing, but enjoy all the benefits of a thriving city.
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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You want to push the burden of paying for infrastructure to just the riders instead of everyone that benefits from it. The only reason you would want to do that is so you can sit back, pay for nothing, but enjoy all the benefits of a thriving city.
Matt, I am a regular transit user & buyer of fares.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Awesome!!

One thing: Don't they plan to connect the system to the "MMPT" / Five Points station and not Dome / GWCC?

http://beltline.org/wp-content/uploa...ort-022514.pdf

Edit. Probably along Peachtree according to the new plan from Dec 2015: http://beltlineorg.wpengine.netdna-c...1216-FINAL.pdf
So, if you look at the 2015 plan, you can see where the crosstown inner loop passes by Vine City and the GWCC. That's what was originally planned for the older routes, just that the phase 2 routing would use that instead of Peachtree to go south by a few blocks.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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So, if you look at the 2015 plan, you can see where the crosstown inner loop passes by Vine City and the GWCC. That's what was originally planned for the older routes, just that the phase 2 routing would use that instead of Peachtree to go south by a few blocks.
True. But that route won't get you to Grant Park. But I guess you can make anything work. We will see what they decide. Maybe they will just do it all.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Just finished today. Both maps are representations of the Phase 1 and Phase 2 Operating Scenarios from the 2014 Streetcar plan.


Phase 2:


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I want this so much.

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Even this would be a great start.

Again, though, one very minor quibble--do you think that these LRT/streetcar lines should have colors other than red/gold/blue/green, to avoid confusion with the HRT lines of the same color?
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