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Old 07-14-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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Gwinnett County's officials are out of touch with what is going on in the metro. This shows that the older, white, conservative voters still run many of the suburban counties, even though the populations are diversifying.
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Old 07-14-2015, 10:15 AM
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Gwinnett County's officials are out of touch with what is going on in the metro. This shows that the older, white, conservative voters still run many of the suburban counties, even though the populations are diversifying.
You could say the same about DeKalb and Fulton, just change the white and how you define conservative.
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Old 07-14-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Gwinnett Commission Chairman Charlotte Nash has so far rejected the idea of a referendum on mass transit, saying she does not believe it will pass. Nash did not respond for comment.
As a Gwinnett county resident, I have to concede that this might be the dumbest thing I have read ever.

Isn't the whole point of a referendum to SEE if it will pass or not?

Can politicians really kill votes based on their idiotic thoughts that they won't pass?

This is stupid.
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Old 07-14-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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You could say the same about DeKalb and Fulton, just change the white and how you define conservative.
Yet those two counties have rail and MARTA so your point? Clayton also just got MARTA which is mostly black so blacks aren't the ones who have a problem with transit and paying the penny tax.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:53 PM
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Yet those two counties have rail and MARTA so your point? Clayton also just got MARTA which is mostly black so blacks aren't the ones who have a problem with transit and paying the penny tax.
His statement was a lot more sweeping than just transit.

Politicians stuck in their ways, out of touch with the metro, refusing to change the way things have been done ("conservative"), not understanding the area is changing and is not just mostly Black with some Anglos, but is rapidly diversifying. Gwinnet's probably a lot more in touch than DeKalb, Fulton or Cobb. Its the fastest growing of the 5 core counties.

And there's certainly a reasonable debate as to whether rail is the best way to do mass transit OTP.
Don't think there's a good argument that having a dozen different transit agencies is the best way to do it, but there are control issues when you join a bigger group.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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His statement was a lot more sweeping than just transit.

Politicians stuck in their ways, out of touch with the metro, refusing to change the way things have been done ("conservative"), not understanding the area is changing and is not just mostly Black with some Anglos, but is rapidly diversifying. Gwinnet's probably a lot more in touch than DeKalb, Fulton or Cobb. Its the fastest growing of the 5 core counties.

And there's certainly a reasonable debate as to whether rail is the best way to do mass transit OTP.
Don't think there's a good argument that having a dozen different transit agencies is the best way to do it, but there are control issues when you join a bigger group.
The embolden sentence right here just nullified your entire argument. How is Gwinnett suppose to be more "in touch"? If your elected leadership doesn't reflect your demographics and/or substantive position on issues of the majority then you are clearly out-of-touch with reality.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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As a Gwinnett county resident, I have to concede that this might be the dumbest thing I have read ever.

Isn't the whole point of a referendum to SEE if it will pass or not?

Can politicians really kill votes based on their idiotic thoughts that they won't pass?

This is stupid.
No. They arent stupid. Well they are but the people that continue to vote them in are more stupid
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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His statement was a lot more sweeping than just transit.

Politicians stuck in their ways, out of touch with the metro, refusing to change the way things have been done ("conservative"), not understanding the area is changing and is not just mostly Black with some Anglos, but is rapidly diversifying. Gwinnet's probably a lot more in touch than DeKalb, Fulton or Cobb. Its the fastest growing of the 5 core counties.

And there's certainly a reasonable debate as to whether rail is the best way to do mass transit OTP.
Don't think there's a good argument that having a dozen different transit agencies is the best way to do it, but there are control issues when you join a bigger group.
Give the people the chance to vote and express their desire, what is the county commissioners afraid of, that MARTA will actually pass?
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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The embolden sentence right here just nullified your entire argument. How is Gwinnett suppose to be more "in touch"? If your elected leadership doesn't reflect your demographics and/or substantive position on issues of the majority then you are clearly out-of-touch with reality.
BAM. This was the knockout. Great post. You can be diverse all you want...if the elected officials are still mostly white and conservative, it looks even worse.
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