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Old 09-17-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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I take it you've never driven from Clarkston or Stone Mountain to town! They have some of the worst commutes in the area not involving GA400. Largely because of the Emory area congestion.
And what are your low priced alternatives? It's a shorter commute than any place outside of Fulton or Dekalb. (I have lived in both Stone-Mountain Clarkston and Lilburn). Also, many folks are living way far out (heck, I know someone that has been commuting from Athens, GA to the CDC for twenty years!). In the world of super-stinky commutes---a just plain old stinky commute should be king!
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:57 PM
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And what are your low priced alternatives? It's a shorter commute than any place outside of Fulton or Dekalb. (I have lived in both Stone-Mountain Clarkston and Lilburn). Also, many folks are living way far out (heck, I know someone that has been commuting from Athens, GA to the CDC for twenty years!). In the world of super-stinky commutes---a just plain old stinky commute should be king!
Anyplace else in Fulton or DeKalb? Maybe Rockdale, Clayton and Douglas Counties? Half of Cobb and the inner I-85 corridor in Gwinnett?

Clarkston and Stone Mountain really suffered from the Stone Mountain Freeway not being completed.
And the Northlake MARTA that would have benefitted that area got cancelled as well.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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Anyplace else in Fulton or DeKalb? Maybe Rockdale, Clayton and Douglas Counties? Half of Cobb and the inner I-85 corridor in Gwinnett?

Clarkston and Stone Mountain really suffered from the Stone Mountain Freeway not being completed.
And the Northlake MARTA that would have benefitted that area got cancelled as well.
*Maybe* better to downtown, but to Emory-CDC? No, I don't think so.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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*Maybe* better to downtown, but to Emory-CDC? No, I don't think so.
The Tucker-North DeKalb Line that got canned was supposed to have a station near Emory.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The Tucker-North DeKalb Line that got canned was supposed to have a station near Emory.
That line would have been great and could have transformed Northlake into an edge city.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta - Midtown
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The post that I was replying to stated that residents should be "jumping for joy" due to an increase in property values due to MARTA going through Emory neighborhoods--which was based on a NJ-Manhattan comparison. I doubt that property values in Manhattan went up due to increased access to a town in NJ--and I doubt that this is going to help home values in the Emory area either. This project is designed to increase access to the Emory-CDC job center--and the Emory neighborhoods--which is a good thing--but, really Emory, the Feds, and other metro counties should be footing more of the costs/contributing to MARTA, as opposed to just Fulton/Dekalb/Clayton counties. Heck, maybe it would be better for Dekalb if this doesn't happen--it might inspire some folks to move back to the Stone Mountain-Clarkston area to have a less awful commute!
Yeah, I understand that, but it's not an apples to apples comparison. Emory is neither NJ nor Manhattan. People living in Manhattan could care less about better access to NJ. People living in the Emory area however would benefit greatly from having better access to Midtown (as well as Buckhead, Downtown, Perimeter, etc).
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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I know it was delayed by lack of funding but does anyone know the history of what happened to the plans for the Tucker-North DeKalb line and why they were scrapped in favor of this Clifton Corridor route? Was there neighborhood opposition to that route?

There is still a stub tunnel for that line: world.nycsubway.org: MARTA Provisions
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Old 09-17-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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I know it was delayed by lack of funding but does anyone know the history of what happened to the plans for the Tucker-North DeKalb line and why they were scrapped in favor of this Clifton Corridor route? Was there neighborhood opposition to that route?

There is still a stub tunnel for that line: world.nycsubway.org: MARTA Provisions
Yep. Local residents along the planned ROW didn't want HRT trains constantly running through their backyards.
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Old 09-17-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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There is no ridership projection that supports HRT as a viable option. The ridership projects make LRT a stretch.

Read the MARTA report from a few years back. The projected ridership does not support the assertion that this is a 'high priority' corridor.
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Old 09-17-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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There is no ridership projection that supports HRT as a viable option. The ridership projects make LRT a stretch.

Read the MARTA report from a few years back. The projected ridership does not support the assertion that this is a 'high priority' corridor.
Sorry, but that's a dumb attitude. Build it, and they will come, is a better one. Lay down the heavy rail transit infrastructure to support what is there + more, then more stuff (TOD) will be able to be built around the new stations, justifying them and then some. Plan for the future, and future growth.

Yes, a HRT station at Cheshire Bridge for example seems a little overkill right now, but you could build a bunch of dense apartments and mixed use right along side it while constructing it.

I just think that, looking at Lindbergh station for example, it makes no sense to have a light rail go right next door to it or something. It is a train station, built for heavy rail trains. Let's make that the technology as all these various planned MARTA expansions.
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