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Old 09-11-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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BRT probably would have work better on the first-phase Streetcar route if they did true BRT and gave it it's own right of way and signal prioritization. Which is what the streetcar needs today. However, they probably would not have done it right, also the streetcar will continue onto the Beltline ROW and BRT would have been too wide. So the streetcar was still the right choice for the downtown route. They just need to get it dedicated ROW and signal prioritization.
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If this is the backbone from which the system branches out, why not at least give it it's own ROW. It wouldn't need to be grade separated. Give it exclusive ROW and signal priority and it could be effective. Now it is set up to be a permanent slow choke point on the system. The planning for this lacked both vision and common sense... which is rare. Normally when you get one, you forgo the other. IN this case, both were absent.
Well you're assuming we can't move in that direction later as the route becomes more important and has a far higher ridership. We can re-stripe and rebuild curbs, we just can't shift the tracks cheaply.

I think the original philosophy isn't to think of it as a choke point, rather it moves faster through collection areas of denser housing built along the beltline and then moves slower and turns into a better circulator going through the core areas including Edgewood. The corridor isn't that long. It is pretty close to just being that final mile to Peacthree.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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You joke, but one of the interesting things about Cobb is there is a small company that has been pushing maglevs for a long time. They actually built a small test track between Austell and Powder Springs.
Cobb has maglev!?

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Old 09-11-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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Well you're assuming we can't move in that direction later as the route becomes more important and has a far higher ridership. We can re-stripe and rebuild curbs, we just can't shift the tracks cheaply.

I think the original philosophy isn't to think of it as a choke point, rather it moves faster through collection areas of denser housing built along the beltline and then moves slower and turns into a better circulator going through the core areas including Edgewood. The corridor isn't that long. It is pretty close to just being that final mile to Peacthree.
Why not do it from the start? You are already doing construction, it would've been an easy add on. Instead, they did it half-assed. On top of the route being nearly useless (another subject), they made it slow and inefficient for $100 million. Well done! At least it doesn't smell like MARTA (the crowded, summertime, music festival port-a-john smell) yet.
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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Cobb has maglev!?

Yes they have a company that specializes in building maglev systems. In fact, if I recall correctly, there was a proposal a few years back about using a maglev system for rail to Chattanooga and Savannah.

The Braves, in its last months in Turner Field negotiations, also pitched a Five Points to Turner Field maglev shuttle. Of course, that is moot now that the team's moving to Cobb County.

Also, while it was not pitched as a maglev per se, there was also this. I wonder how "feasible" it would be to build a maglev system of commuter lines as opposed to relying on the "goodwill" of the freight companies for any future system?

- skbl17
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:49 PM
 
Location: In your feelings
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Yes they have a company that specializes in building maglev systems.
Well... Cobb is home to a company that specializes in proposing maglev systems. Have they actually built a public project yet? The only things I know of are a few test tracks they've built. They made a lot of hay about a system they want to build in Orlando (sounds familiar) but still haven't gotten permission to actually build to the airport, last I read.

Airport is still a missing link for maglev train, official says - Orlando Sentinel
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: In your feelings
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Why not do it from the start? You are already doing construction, it would've been an easy add on. Instead, they did it half-assed. On top of the route being nearly useless (another subject), they made it slow and inefficient for $100 million. Well done! At least it doesn't smell like MARTA (the crowded, summertime, music festival port-a-john smell) yet.
I see an easy solution; just remove car traffic from the lane that the Streetcar travels in. Done and done, no building, no new right of way required.
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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I see an easy solution; just remove car traffic from the lane that the Streetcar travels in. Done and done, no building, no new right of way required.
Agreed!
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:51 PM
 
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Since it is so easy, then why haven't the geniuses running the thing made it happen yet? Instead the system was built to be slow and inefficient. Who is running this thing... other than the buffoon hired to be Director of Streetcar Safety who had no experience and failed to ensure the operators were properly certified. I think that is a pretty accurate picture of this boondoggle. Build a system poorly and hire unqualified people. This could've been done cheaper and faster... but... "ooooooh a train." Morons running the city.

-DMG out
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Why didn't they do this instead of the streetcar? Seems like they could've saved about $75 million doing this while producing faster service.

-DMG out
Welcome back corndog.
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