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View Poll Results: Will you vote "yes" or "no" for the new City of LaVista Hills?
Yes 16 47.06%
No 18 52.94%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-22-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I couldn't care less about "regional issues" when the problem centers around DeKalb County wasting money like no tomorrow, and all the graft and cronyism that's going on there. Localism beats regionalism any day of the week, imo.

I don't think I have much to worry about - support for LaVista Hills is probably around 70%, if not higher.

I'm still curious as to why there's more "no" votes on here than "yes" when most of the comments seem to be in favor.
But of course, regional issues don't mean nothing just like climate change, etc... Not this is the true meaning of NIMBYism...
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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Because the anonymous agenda for the "no" side is more hidden than the "yes" side?
Precisely...
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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Because the anonymous agenda for the "no" side is more hidden than the "yes" side?
It might help if you could see who voted and whether they in fact live in the area.

I would vote yes, but haven't since I don't live there.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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But of course, regional issues don't mean nothing just like climate change, etc... Not this is the true meaning of NIMBYism...
What are the regional issues? climate change is a global issue being dealt with at he global level. Transportation is more of a state issue in this region since it affects half the population of the state and it needs leadership at the state level.
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Localism and regionalism are not mutually exclusive.

Cobb County, for example. They've got the localism down pat. They don't care about the Atlanta region, and even hinder regional level planning, by not allowing MARTA.

But they could be also pro-region, but they're just not. Or at least they historically haven't been.

Decatur by contrast is an example of a suburban city that embraces their locality and does things their way at the local level, but also accepts the fact that they are a suburb of Atlanta, and embraces the entire region as a whole.

LaVista Hills... let's hope they could be a nice town in their own right, but also pro-Atlanta and pro-metro.
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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The ITP area really needs to consolidate it's resources and planning then become one city like Houston. All these different little cities and municipalities don't do anything but waste resources and add layers of bureaucracy.
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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The ITP area really needs to consolidate it's resources and planning then become one city like Houston. All these different little cities and municipalities don't do anything but waste resources and add layers of bureaucracy.
I doubt that places like Decatur, Atlanta, College Park, Brookhaven, East point and Chamblee would go down without a serious scrap.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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The ITP area really needs to consolidate it's resources and planning then become one city like Houston. All these different little cities and municipalities don't do anything but waste resources and add layers of bureaucracy.
When Atlanta annexes Druid Hills and most of the Emory area, and eventually Gresham Park, Constitution, and the rest of East Lake, then 75% of ITP will be in Atlanta.

Decatur needs to be its own city, since it's a county seat of a different county. Lavista Hills is too sheltered suburban in character to be annexed by Atlanta, and too far from downtown.

Brookhaven just wanted local control of planning and taxes, like Chamblee and Doraville have. Can't really blame them for that. Most of their territory would have been a neglected northern fringe of CofA.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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What are the regional issues? climate change is a global issue being dealt with at he global level. Transportation is more of a state issue in this region since it affects half the population of the state and it needs leadership at the state level.
Climate change and climate action plans are local and regional because globally most nations except the US and China are executing these measures via implementation on a macro-scale.

GDOT doesn't give a flyin' f**k about handling transportation in this region and their track history proves that to be a fact. GDOT is run by the Good Ol' Boy network and that shows. Assuming they will is very naive. The weather disaster in January 2014 that embarrassed Atlanta globally was the wake up call.

Metro Atlanta as a whole is on its own on handling transportation, long-term sources of drinking water, hazard mitigation planning, and climate action planning. We have to get it together as a region or we will falter in the long run.

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Old 10-22-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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The ITP area really needs to consolidate it's resources and planning then become one city like Houston. All these different little cities and municipalities don't do anything but waste resources and add layers of bureaucracy.
They all know this but they don't care... This is nothing but regional (finite) resource cannibalism, but the whole song and dance is avoiding the real issues. I see this is a crew that loves to play deflection, but that only works with those uninformed.

I work in an industry where I see what this does daily and a grand scale and possess access to data proves them to be dead wrong...
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