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Old 10-24-2015, 04:57 PM
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He sounds like a New Yorker with disdain for everything not NYC. To each his own.
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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In some ways, he's right though. Atlanta needs an urban growth boundary at some point.
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:20 PM
 
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In some ways, he's right though. Atlanta needs an urban growth boundary at some point.
Are you serious? That has about has much chance as Cobb petitioning to be annexed into the city of Atlanta. There are other effective ways to develop smartly.

On a serious note...

Other than the obvious snobbery and his labeling everything a "faux-loft" I find it hard to disagree with the actual substance of the article on how Atlanta developed for years and in some cases continues to develop. Fortunately things have changed for the better but in order to build urban places where people want to be architectural standards need to be higher. Many of the recent projects are nice but still too many seem to go for the low hanging fruit architecturally.
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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Are you serious? That has about has much chance as Cobb petitioning to be annexed into the city of Atlanta. There are other effective ways to develop smartly.

On a serious note...

Other than the obvious snobbery and his labeling everything a "faux-loft" I find it hard to disagree with the actual substance of the article on how Atlanta developed for years and in some cases continues to develop. Fortunately things have changed for the better but in order to build urban places where people want to be architectural standards need to be higher. Many of the recent projects are nice but still too many seem to go for the low hanging fruit architecturally.
As long as there is a mix of standard/boring and eye-catching then Atlanta will continue to be attractive. Obviously every building doesn't need to be a masterpiece...some just need to fill in the blanks. Every city has a mixture of background buildings and standouts, and it seems like Atlanta is a good mix of both.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Sounds to me like this fellow was going out of his way to be snarky.

For instance, he writes about "a building where the fake-stone panels don’t even align is beyond me." In the comments, it's pointed out that this is actually Portuguese limestone that was cut to precision tolerances.

The ATL certainly has its faults but why make things up?
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:42 AM
 
Location: N.C. for now... Atlanta future
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Sounds to me like this fellow was going out of his way to be snarky.

For instance, he writes about "a building where the fake-stone panels don’t even align is beyond me." In the comments, it's pointed out that this is actually Portuguese limestone that was cut to precision tolerances.

The ATL certainly has its faults but why make things up?
Shew! That's a relief that it was explained and that it is real stone. I was worried about that. I couldn't BELIEVE he insulted Buckhead Atlanta (and Restoration Hardware to boot)... It is one of the best developments the city has ever seen. A truly pedestrian oriented retail development. You can criticize it's name (I have) and you can even criticize it's luxury-only stores, but it is still a great center of walkability and the buildings certainly look the part.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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As long as there is a mix of standard/boring and eye-catching then Atlanta will continue to be attractive. Obviously every building doesn't need to be a masterpiece...some just need to fill in the blanks. Every city has a mixture of background buildings and standouts, and it seems like Atlanta is a good mix of both.
There's boring and then there is utter garbage. I should clarify that I am not referring to highrises (except for their parking decks) and I am not one those that thinks every five-story apartment building needs to be amazing. I think one of the valid points that this guy makes its seems that developers used to building in the suburbs have tried to adapt their projects to the city and in some cases fail miserably in terms of adding to the urban landscape. What's most important is where these buildings meet the street and we still have a ways to go in that aspect quite frankly.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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Shew! That's a relief that it was explained and that it is real stone. I was worried about that. I couldn't BELIEVE he insulted Buckhead Atlanta (and Restoration Hardware to boot)... It is one of the best developments the city has ever seen. A truly pedestrian oriented retail development. You can criticize it's name (I have) and you can even criticize it's luxury-only stores, but it is still a great center of walkability and the buildings certainly look the part.
I agree. Buckhead Village is street-level retail (or just urban street level in general) done RIGHT. His criticism is just silly.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:25 AM
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Are you serious? That has about has much chance as Cobb petitioning to be annexed into the city of Atlanta. There are other effective ways to develop smartly.

On a serious note...

Other than the obvious snobbery and his labeling everything a "faux-loft" I find it hard to disagree with the actual substance of the article on how Atlanta developed for years and in some cases continues to develop. Fortunately things have changed for the better but in order to build urban places where people want to be architectural standards need to be higher. Many of the recent projects are nice but still too many seem to go for the low hanging fruit architecturally.
To be totally fair though, we certainly don't own the low hanging fruit architecture. Similar looking developments are going up all across the Country. A lot are good, some are incredibly bland - but they have become almost interchangeable from coast to coast.
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Old 10-25-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: N.C. for now... Atlanta future
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To be totally fair though, we certainly don't own the low hanging fruit architecture. Similar looking developments are going up all across the Country. A lot are good, some are incredibly bland - but they have become almost interchangeable from coast to coast.
You are so right. Cities all over the world are filled with what were derided in their day as "bland" cookie cutter buildings. People once thought Cabbagetown was shame-worthy housing. As time wears on attitudes change and also buildings can change. Building facades can be rebuilt. Brick can be installed. Ornamentation added. People once tried to erase art deco features from buildings but now they are highly valued. Etc. Etc. On and on.
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