Governor Deal will try to prevent Georgia from accepting any further Syrian refugees (job market, landscaping)

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Originally Posted by fourthwarden

The overall population of refugees you'll see will match that of the demographics of the region they were fleeing. That is, roughly 50/50 split of male / female, certain percentage of children, etc.

So, part of the discrepancy comes from the mode of relocation. What's happening, is that a majority of refugees only really make it one stop. They flee, get to a camp, and settle in for the wait in an attempt to return to their country, hoping that they can go home. The United States only accepts applicants from this group; registered refugees in camps who aren't in a third country attempting to resettle. That's why you see those applying generally matching the overall refugee population.

A much smaller set will move on to a second, or third etc. country. The destination will greatly determine the make up of those moving to that place. A safer, more conventional route will see pretty standard spread. A more dangerous route (say, dingy over the Mediterranean) will typically see more young males, since they are the ones who are perceived to be able to handle the trip better. There are exceptions to that, of course, but that's typically where the worry about 'an army of fighting age men invading Europe' comes from.

Interesting and enlightening information. What are your sources? I don't mean this to sound suspicious; I simply would like to pursue this train of thought.

[Mattie]

I'm glad to see some religious leaders are taking a stand in GA:

Georgia Clergy Protest Governor's Refugee Plans - NBC News

I can't seem to find any mention of this on the AJC site, which I find curious.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

The overall population of refugees you'll see will match that of the demographics of the region they were fleeing. That is, roughly 50/50 split of male / female, certain percentage of children, etc.

So, part of the discrepancy comes from the mode of relocation. What's happening, is that a majority of refugees only really make it one stop. They flee, get to a camp, and settle in for the wait in an attempt to return to their country, hoping that they can go home. The United States only accepts applicants from this group; registered refugees in camps who aren't in a third country attempting to resettle. That's why you see those applying generally matching the overall refugee population.

A much smaller set will move on to a second, or third etc. country. The destination will greatly determine the make up of those moving to that place. A safer, more conventional route will see pretty standard spread. A more dangerous route (say, dingy over the Mediterranean) will typically see more young males, since they are the ones who are perceived to be able to handle the trip better. There are exceptions to that, of course, but that's typically where the worry about 'an army of fighting age men invading Europe' comes from.

Even if this were true, it wouldn't make a significant discrepancy in the gender and age makeup of the refugees locating in the U.S. It might make a small difference, but not enough of one for anyone to declare that the "vast majority" of the refugees that would be coming to the US are widows and orphans. Are they going to go through and actually choose widows and orphans, or are they going to take applications as they come? I think the latter.

Whatever the situation, it's very hard to locate the truth through all of the obvious agendas. It's frustrating and I guess whatever will happen will happen. I'm certainly not able to take a hard stance either way...it's hard to understand how anyone can.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by Mattie

I'm glad to see some religious leaders are taking a stand in GA:

Georgia Clergy Protest Governor's Refugee Plans - NBC News

I can't seem to find any mention of this on the AJC site, which I find curious.

Looks to be about 5-10 of them...strange that the camera would never show the entire group - I suspect due to its small size. That report made it sound like a statewide protest, when it wasn't. That could be why the AJC didn't mention it.


I don't understand how you (or anyone) feel that you have enough valid information to pick a solid side on this issue. Maybe it will take something like what happened in Paris to open some eyes, but France has a much larger problem than we do so hopefully it won't happen.

[Mattie]

Originally Posted by JoeTarheel

Looks to be about 5-10 of them...strange that the camera would never show the entire group - I suspect due to its small size. That report made it sound like a statewide protest, when it wasn't. That could be why the AJC didn't mention it.


I don't understand how you (or anyone) feel that you have enough valid information to pick a solid side on this issue. Maybe it will take something like what happened in Paris to open some eyes, but France has a much larger problem than we do so hopefully it won't happen.

I have a soul. That's all I need. And if it was enough of a protest to make a national news site, I don't see why it wasn't covered at the local level.

[Tryska]

Originally Posted by JoeTarheel

Looks to be about 5-10 of them...strange that the camera would never show the entire group - I suspect due to its small size. That report made it sound like a statewide protest, when it wasn't. That could be why the AJC didn't mention it.


I don't understand how you (or anyone) feel that you have enough valid information to pick a solid side on this issue. Maybe it will take something like what happened in Paris to open some eyes, but France has a much larger problem than we do so hopefully it won't happen.

It's hard for me to understand how anyone could be on the fence. You take in refugees needing shelter. It's the Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist/Pagan thing to do.
It's the American/European/Asian/Middle Eastern thing to do.
It's the HUMAN thing to do.


Fear of what a refugee might do doesn't even enter into it for me. I am more likely to die at the hands of some pissed off citizen, just going to the grocery store or the movies here, as it is. I should be more afraid that a foreigner might do what natural-born citizens already do? And would it matter who did it? I'd still be dead, either way. I can't afford to allow that to stop me from doing the right thing, because all that would gain me is a crippling case of agoraphobia.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaLakeSearch

Most people just want to bring people in because it makes them feel worldly. I'd rather be called xenophobic than dead.

Yet you still drive a car and more likely to die from a car crash than to be killed in a terrorist attack.

[No2Monsanto]

All I can do is shake my head at those agreeing to not allow any refugees into our country. But those people will build a nativity scene at their churches showing a couple from the middle east seeking shelter as an ode to the holidays. OKAY. The REAL problem lies with our government more than it does anyone else for a myriad of reasons, but that's another thread.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by Tryska

It's hard for me to understand how anyone could be on the fence. You take in refugees needing shelter. It's the Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist/Pagan thing to do.
It's the American/European/Asian/Middle Eastern thing to do.
It's the HUMAN thing to do.


Fear of what a refugee might do doesn't even enter into it for me. I am more likely to die at the hands of some pissed off citizen, just going to the grocery store or the movies here, as it is. I should be more afraid that a foreigner might do what natural-born citizens already do? And would it matter who did it? I'd still be dead, either way. I can't afford to allow that to stop me from doing the right thing, because all that would gain me is a crippling case of agoraphobia.

Love it!

[gt6974a]

Take care of the homeless and the Vets, then you might get my support