11-25-2015, 04:46 AM
Location: Atlanta
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Man who caused trucks to crash off 285 bridge receives fine, probation
SANDY SPRINGS, Ga. — The man who admits he caused a dangerous crash on I-285 will have to pay a hefty fine ...The judge gave Silverstein a $500 fine, ordered him to take a defensive driving class and put him on probation for a year. "I'm increasing the fine because this was just an awful situation and I need you to pay more attention while you’re driving,” Dickson said.,, I want to discuss what is considered a "hefty fine".
Now, you may remember back in late September that this man clipped the front of a Publix semi resulting in that semi and a gas tanker truck careening off 285 down to 400 which of course caused a chain reaction that [sarcasm]held up traffic quite a bit.[/sarcasm] but fortunately no fatalities.
Are you kidding me? You could rack up $500 ticket for failure to maintain lane with no accident or complete debacle like this was at all involved and just because a police officer had a wild hair that day. I would not call this a slap on the wrist moreso than a friggin handshake or a fist bump.
Maybe my question is not so much whether his fine was fair, but since people get fined a lot more for a lot less and if those fines are fair? I know this is turning into a vent, but the use of "hefty" is just outlandish for describing the fine.
Also, if anyone knows the name of his attorney, I'd like to hear it in the event I cause something that breaks a bridge and clogs up two freeways.
11-25-2015, 12:42 PM
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I thought we would be talking 10s of thousands when it came to the fine. $500 fine is only like a few hundred more than speeding....are you kidding me? What if people died?
11-25-2015, 01:02 PM
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I read that this man has had 6 traffic citations in the past 5 years.
11-25-2015, 02:03 PM
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Was this guy messing with his phone?
11-25-2015, 08:04 PM
Location: Atlanta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ant131531
I thought we would be talking 10s of thousands when it came to the fine. $500 fine is only like a few hundred more than speeding....are you kidding me? What if people died?
It's like the baseline fine depending on the judge.
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Originally Posted by
ATLTJL
I read that this man has had 6 traffic citations in the past 5 years.
I read that as well of course but just left it out. I'm relatively certain it was an accident as well unless he's insane, but whether it was or was not does not seem to weigh heavily in courts. He definitely went the extra mile talking about his remorse but really give me some sort of small break about pretending that piddly fine is wayyyy above the norm.
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arjay57
Was this guy messing with his phone?
Sarcasm at its best so thanks for the laugh - ha ha.
Look, I'm not saying that he should have been hauled off to a stockade with the townsfolk marching with pitchforks and torches behind him, but don't for one moment pretend like $500 was
HEFTY FEE for what he caused. If my driving record looked like his (and that only includes the things I know about his), I'd not be under the jail.
11-25-2015, 08:43 PM
Location: In your feelings
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ATLTJL
I read that this man has had 6 traffic citations in the past 5 years.
We have "three strikes and you're out" for victimless drug crimes, but mandatory minimum punishments are conspicuously absent for dangerous and possibly life-threatening acts undertaken by motorists. Once a person has been cited that many times in such a short period, we should be suspending their license.
11-26-2015, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
ElleKaye
Man who caused trucks to crash off 285 bridge receives fine, probation SANDY SPRINGS, Ga. — The man who admits he caused a dangerous crash on I-285 will have to pay a hefty fine ...The judge gave Silverstein a $500 fine, ordered him to take a defensive driving class and put him on probation for a year. "I'm increasing the fine because this was just an awful situation and I need you to pay more attention while you’re driving,” Dickson said.,, I want to discuss what is considered a "hefty fine".
Now, you may remember back in late September that this man clipped the front of a Publix semi resulting in that semi and a gas tanker truck careening off 285 down to 400 which of course caused a chain reaction that [sarcasm]held up traffic quite a bit.[/sarcasm] but fortunately no fatalities.
Are you kidding me? You could rack up $500 ticket for failure to maintain lane with no accident or complete debacle like this was at all involved and just because a police officer had a wild hair that day. I would not call this a slap on the wrist moreso than a friggin handshake or a fist bump.
Maybe my question is not so much whether his fine was fair, but since people get fined a lot more for a lot less and if those fines are fair? I know this is turning into a vent, but the use of "hefty" is just outlandish for describing the fine.
Also, if anyone knows the name of his attorney, I'd like to hear it in the event I cause something that breaks a bridge and clogs up two freeways.
I agree. Total misuse of the word "hefty." Bad reporting/writing.
Alley
11-26-2015, 04:53 PM
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ElleKaye
Sarcasm at its best so thanks for the laugh - ha ha.
I'm only being slightly sarcastic. I'd be okay with a $50,000 fine and a permanent driving ban.
11-26-2015, 05:58 PM
Location: Kirkwood
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He should have his DL permenanently revoked.
11-27-2015, 06:34 AM
Location: Odessa, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ant131531
I thought we would be talking 10s of thousands when it came to the fine. $500 fine is only like a few hundred more than speeding....are you kidding me? What if people died?
if people had died then the driver could have been charged with vehicular homocide or something similar. But still, since lives were put in danger why wasn't he charged with something like reckless endangerment? $500 isn't a hefty fine, it's a nod and a wink. You can get hit with more than $500 for something as simple as speeding over 85.
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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