Atlanta City Council approves Streetcar plan (Vienna: bills, ticket, distance)

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by tikigod311

I would venture to guess that 3/4 of the Beltline is built or very actively being planned.

I mean, yeah. The Eastside, Westside, and Northside trails are, together, ~6.3 miles, or 29% of the 22-mile loop.

Add in the in-process planning for the Northeast and Southside trails, and you get ~14 miles, or 64% of the overall trail in some form of active planning or having been built. Of course, that's not to say the rest of the Northwest trail isn't being actively worked on either, just that it's a fair bit further back.

Oh, and then we have to think about all the planning around the streetcar and light rail system itself. There's a lot of effort going on there too, between MARTA, the city, the BeltLine folks, and the feds.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

I mean, yeah. The Eastside, Westside, and Northside trails are, together, ~6.3 miles, or 29% of the 22-mile loop.

Add in the in-process planning for the Northeast and Southside trails, and you get ~14 miles, or 64% of the overall trail in some form of active planning or having been built. Of course, that's not to say the rest of the Northwest trail isn't being actively worked on either, just that it's a fair bit further back.

Oh, and then we have to think about all the planning around the streetcar and light rail system itself. There's a lot of effort going on there too, between MARTA, the city, the BeltLine folks, and the feds.

But they have only built a small part. And the northern 1/4 will probably never get built since the railroads still use the ROW.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by bu2

But they have only built a small part. And the northern 1/4 will probably never get built since the railroads still use the ROW.

As I've said elsewhere, the northern 1/4 will probably look like the Clifton Corridor. Not impossible.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

I mean, yeah. The Eastside, Westside, and Northside trails are, together, ~6.3 miles, or 29% of the 22-mile loop.

Add in the in-process planning for the Northeast and Southside trails, and you get ~14 miles, or 64% of the overall trail in some form of active planning or having been built. Of course, that's not to say the rest of the Northwest trail isn't being actively worked on either, just that it's a fair bit further back.

Oh, and then we have to think about all the planning around the streetcar and light rail system itself. There's a lot of effort going on there too, between MARTA, the city, the BeltLine folks, and the feds.

We also cannot forget connector trails that have been built as well; Southwest Connector Trail in Westview and Westwood Terr and West End Trail (runs parallel to Westside Trail).
Too many times people get TOO focused on the loop.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by cqholt

We also cannot forget connector trails that have been built as well; Southwest Connector Trail in Westview and Westwood Terr and West End Trail (runs parallel to Westside Trail).
Too many times people get TOO focused on the loop.

Right, but the connector trails aren't really built with transit in mind, let alone light rail, which was the topic.

MARTA survey results show that Atlantans want rail on the BeltLine

The results from MARTA’s in-person and online surveys clearly show that Atlantans want BeltLine rail to be a spending priority.

133 [in-person] respondents defined how they want the referendum tax money to be used. The “MARTA Priorities” box in the document shows BeltLine transit to be a high priority. In another section of the report, the item “Expansion of Atlanta Streetcar/Light Rail, incl. the Atlanta BeltLine Loop” was market as being Very Important by 70% of respondents.

4,200 people participated in the online survey. Like the in-person survey, these results also show that BeltLine rail is a high priority. And please note that the specific phrase “light rail” was used in the survey, not “anything you might call transit, like maybe a bus or something.” The Most Favored section of the reports tells the story. Atlantans want their tax money spent on trains for the BeltLine

The people continue to speak, and align with the professionals. How crazy.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Right, but the connector trails aren't really built with transit in mind, let alone light rail, which was the topic.

MARTA survey results show that Atlantans want rail on the BeltLine







The people continue to speak, and align with the professionals. How crazy.

The Beltline has a survey out. Does everyone have to do a survey?

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by bu2

The Beltline has a survey out. Does everyone have to do a survey?

What? MARTA was doing public outreach to prioritize the project list for More MARTA tax funding. BeltLine wasn't a leader of that effort.

Then again, when you have people, and even high-level officials, who didn't seem to get the message the first time around, it pays to remind everyone of where support lies. That just so happens to have come from an already happening effort from MARTA to prioritize funding for projects.

[cqholt]

MARTA will keep the $1 fare to ride the Atlanta Streetcar when it takes over the troubled downtown transit line July 1.

MARTA Police Chief Wanda Dunham told the agency’s Board of Director’s Friday the fare is needed to allow officers to enforce a “no loitering” rule and to ensure patrons feel safe aboard the streetcar. Some customers have complained they feel unsafe because of homeless people often ride the transit line.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...iev8SBL8neozK/

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by cqholt

https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...iev8SBL8neozK/

How do they inforce this? There are no gates at the streetcar so couldn’t anyone just get on already? I bought a streetcar ticket before and nobody even checked to see if I paid.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by demonta4

How do they inforce this? There are no gates at the streetcar so couldn’t anyone just get on already? I bought a streetcar ticket before and nobody even checked to see if I paid.

Proof of payment, threat of ticket or jail time if unpaid fare. Many LRT systems do this.