SunTrust Park (Atlanta, Buckhead: 2013, loan, purchase)

[Aubie16]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Something like a bus, with fixed route and stops is the perfect industry for AVs. With upgraded ATC, platform doors, and other modifications MARTA rail can go complete AV.
But we are also forgetting about the powerful Transit Unions and how they will fight to stop this. Look at NYC Subway, they don't operate ATC and have more than 1 employee per train. The transit union has fought hard to prevent job losses.

Structural unemployment is good.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by Aubie16

Structural unemployment is good.

So losing all those blue collar jobs that America's middle class was built on is good? Plunging families into generational poverty is good?

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by cqholt

But we are also forgetting about the powerful Transit Unions and how they will fight to stop this. Look at NYC Subway, they don't operate ATC and have more than 1 employee per train. The transit union has fought hard to prevent job losses.

I'm not forgetting it -- I wrote this a few pages back.

Originally Posted by Cameron H

A lot of the concern around this kind of "microtransit" seems to be that it will "disrupt" established public transit systems. It's one thing for tech startups to disrupt rent-seeking taxi companies; it's another thing for them to disrupt public services representing billions of dollars of investment and many decades worth of infrastructure with politically powerful and entrenched public transit unions.

That is not a problem in Cobb County.

Originally Posted by cqholt

So losing all those blue collar jobs that America's middle class was built on is good? Plunging families into generational poverty is good?

I mean, it's been happening since the industrial revolution and it will continue to happen. Is it "good" or "bad" that 6.6% of the workforce in England and Wales in 1871 was engaged in the agricultural sector while today it is 0.2%? Whole generations of families used to be weavers and knitters. More recently, whole generations of typists, switchboard operators, and office assistants have been displaced. Resource extraction jobs have disappeared, from oilfield roughnecks to coal miners. They aren't coming back. Technology isn't going to stop. It's going to continue transforming our society.

It's going to continue to be a major challenge. Many new jobs in services will be created by technology-driven industries, spending power, and productivity, but as a long-term trend, labor in developed economies will lose value and capital will gain value. What do we do about that? How do we meet a future that is effectively "post-work" for a segment of the population, that is, the point where the work that segment of the population can provide essentially has no economic value? In my opinion, you're going to need massive redistribution of income from owners of capital to owners of labor, probably with something like a universal basic income. In any case, whatever the answer turns out to be, you're not going to stop technology.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

It's going to continue to be a major challenge. Many new jobs in services will be created by technology-driven industries, spending power, and productivity, but as a long-term trend, labor in developed economies will lose value and capital will gain value. What do we do about that? How do we meet a future that is effectively "post-work" for a segment of the population, that is, the point where the work that segment of the population can provide essentially has no economic value? In my opinion, you're going to need massive redistribution of income from owners of capital to owners of labor, probably with something like a universal basic income. In any case, whatever the answer turns out to be, you're not going to stop technology.

You are so very right. The trend will continue as technology, particularly AI, becomes more and more sophisticated. While this may sound corny, our economy and society in general will need to develop into something akin to Star Trek's world, where there is no money and the goal of humanity is to explore, learn, develop the arts and enjoy living life. Live long and prosper, folks.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

You are so very right. The trend will continue as technology, particularly AI, becomes more and more sophisticated. While this may sound corny, our economy and society in general will need to develop into something akin to Star Trek's world, where there is no money and the goal of humanity is to explore, learn, develop the arts and enjoy living life. Live long and prosper, folks.

What happens to those citizens who are too poor or are left behind?

[Aubie16]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So losing all those blue collar jobs that America's middle class was built on is good? Plunging families into generational poverty is good?

Putting all those carriage drivers out of a job because we invented the car was a terrible thing. Putting milk men out of business because of advanced in refrigeration was terrible. Putting all those switchboard operators out of business was awful. How dare we put manual street sweepers out of a job. Street lamp lighters lost their job due to electricity...we definitely should have stopped its development.

You get the point. Structural unemployment is not only desirable but neccesary for the economy to continue to grow. Those workers eventually learn new skills and gain other employment. It has happened for hundreds of years and will continue to. Protectionism is bad.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by cqholt

What happens to those citizens who are too poor or are left behind?

In an ideal world there would be no poor or rich. Accumulating "stuff" wouldn't be considered important. We would value supporting one another for the greater good. I dunno - capitalism sometimes depresses me.

[arjay57]

Sounds like Suntrust park may be growing.

Atlanta Braves president Derek Schiller told our audience at yesterday's Atlanta 2016 Roundup & Outlook at the InterContinental in Buckhead that demand for office at The Battery mixed-use portion of SunTrust Park has been strong, and could precipitate developers moving forward on a second phase of the project. “We feel strongly that we are going to be launching that here pretty soon,” Derek said.

More.....BRAVES ALREADY EYEING OFFICE EXPANSION AT SUNTRUST PARK

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Sounds like Suntrust park may be growing.

Well yeah, arjay, when you get hundreds of millions in taxpayer handouts, of course you can grow!

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

Well yeah, arjay, when you get hundreds of millions in taxpayer handouts, of course you can grow!

This is certainly not unique to SunTrust Park. It's sorta the norm when attracting businesses.