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Old 02-19-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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Atlanta, who are you voting for in Nov and why?

Who do you think will win?

 
Old 02-19-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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I cannot even decide who to vote for in the primaries.

I was about set on voting for Rand Paul in the primary election (even that I was not thrilled about as he adopted too many mainline GOP stances). But he has dropped out already. I think once we get to the general election I have now decided I will end up voting for the Dem ticket or throwing a protest vote to a third party as all the remaining GOP candidates seem too far right and/or just plain crazy.

But that still leaves me who to vote for in the primaries. I just haven't been able to make the call between Bernie and Hilary. Bernie, I like his anti-establishment-ness. Even though I apparently end up close to him on many views, I just cannot get fully behind the "socialism" aspect. I liked Bill, but Hillary has his sliminess and none of his charm. She seems to be "in-bed" with too many Wall-Street powers-that-be. She seems to just keep trying to "morph" into whatever she thinks will win the election.

On the GOP side, I actually like what Trump is doing in shaking up the GOP establishment. However, he is too much of a clown. He is more of a show that I don't think will necessarily stick to any of the one-liners he said during the election. Good and Bad. Banning people based on a religion is over the line. And that can quickly go in a very bad direction. This guy needs to be kept from power.

But all the other other guys are worse on major stances. I looked into Kasich after NH and his policies seem incrementally better and he seems slightly sane. But nowhere near enough to count.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Killer Mike!
 
Old 02-19-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Mickey Mouse.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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Trump because the rest of the GOP wants to bring in as many foreigners as possible to work on the cheap or just ship our jobs to their countries and the Dems want to bring in as foreigners as possible because they dislike a white majority and think it's America job to help citizens of other countries. Find me someone with a nationalist policy like Trump and I might vote for that person over him, until then it's Trump.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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So there is a case to be made, that Trump would might actually end up being a fairly moderate president. He disgusts me, but maybe it's all been more of a careful play just to get all the right wing idiot votes in his camp so he can win the primary. Keep in mind he's a New Yorker and he used to be a Democrat, and he's flopped around on all the big issues. Also he's definitely not a religious nut. He's just a business guy. So, I don't know. Definitely not my first choice.

I'll take about anyone but Ted Cruz for the presidency, at this point. That guy, seriously, seriously scares me, and literally everything he stands for is completely the exact opposite of what I believe in and stand for. Keep your religion to yourself and out of the government and law system, which is for everyone.

As far as my vote, I'm supporting Bernie Sanders, even though the stupid 'super delegates' system is some rigged up BS. And that whole supposedly super lucky coin flip victory. The establishment clearly is stacking things towards Hillary.

Hillary just wants to be president. That's all she's wanted for a very long time. She'll say anything, do anything, change her position based on a poll or a strategic calculation. Strikes me as very insincere and very much a stereotypical politician in the worst way. While I would love to support a woman for president, I just don't like her.

Bernie is the opposite of that. I can just look in his eyes and tell that he really believes in his positions, and he's the first true liberal or progressive that I can ever remember getting this far in the system. If anything, it shows that our country could have some hope. Especially since he has so much support from young people.

Social democracy BTW, which is essentially Bernie's philosophy, as I try to remind my friends and coworkers, is not Democratic Socialism, and it's not even socialism. The terms are confusing. Bernie refers to himself as "socialist", but is not opposed to capitalism, he just also wants a strong welfare state. And I agree with basically everything he says.

Just because some elements of our society economy might would go one smidge leftwards if he were president, doesn't mean that we still wouldn't be very capitalist and that this wouldn't still be very much the same America. I'm sick of people equating him as some kind of communist. It's a bunch of ridiculous ignorance. The Nordic countries are happier and have a higher well being than us, he's saying let's learn from their successes. As they do, certainly we can balance capitalism with a more equitable society.

This info is actually out dated now and it's gotten even worse now, but here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

This is not about some Ayn Rand novel antagonist where we want to demonize the successful or the wealthy, and create a society of leechers and looters and lazy people. It's about actually improving our economy, by having a little bit more even distribution of wealth, so that more people can actually be able to participate in that economy, by having some actual money to spend.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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Gary Johnson. Unlike the others, I know he'll still be running Nov 2016.

Who do I think will win? Hillary Clinton. The only way the GOP wins is if they nominate John Kasich and he chooses Marco Rubio as his running mate. Because then they win Ohio and Florida, the biggest and truest swing states in the country. Otherwise, the GOP doesn't have a chance. Not with Cruz or Trump or the rest of them. A big, politically diverse state like Ohio is not going to vote for Trump in a general election, especially over Clinton.

Georgia, however, will. GA will vote for the GOP nominee in the general election, whomever that ends up being. In 8 years though, that might not be the case anymore.

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Old 02-19-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Going to be a Democrat (per usual) for me. Will vote for Clinton in the primaries. The thought of Trump, Cruz or Rubio is quite alarming to me.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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Default Atlanta Nov 2016

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Originally Posted by AnsleyPark View Post
Going to be a Democrat (per usual) for me. Will vote for Clinton in the primaries. The thought of Trump, Cruz or Rubio is quite alarming to me.
I'm with you all the way round in what you wrote. We went & saw Bill at a Hillary rally in North Clayton last weekend.
As regards a Trump presidency, a person dear to me said just yesterday, that the "..thought of Trump having his finger on the nuclear trigger button as commander in chief was horrifying..." to them.
And Cruz, well he's just downright scary as a sort of wackjob/zealot!
 
Old 02-19-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Sanders in the primaries and hold my nose and vote Hillary in the general election. Possibly could be my first time every voting republican in the general if by some act of god Kasich is the nominee and has a moderate VP not named Rubio,Cruz, or Trump vs Hillary Clinton. That has a zero chance of happening, but Kasich seems like he is in the wrong party, he would kill as a Democrat.
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