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Old 05-19-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I understand, primaltech, and I'm not criticizing you.

I'm just amazed at how much debate we have about MARTA.
It's a very polarizing subject.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Isn't even really about transportation, to be honest. The north suburbs try to disconnect and disassociate with Atlanta at every turn, while also reaping the benefits of proximity to Atlanta.

I mean, Cobb created a 10 foot city just to prevent the city of Atlanta from annexing any Cobb County land. That's just ugly.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Downtown Marietta
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Isn't even really about transportation, to be honest. The north suburbs try to disconnect and disassociate with Atlanta at every turn, while also reaping the benefits of proximity to Atlanta.

I mean, Cobb created a 10 foot city just to prevent the city of Atlanta from annexing any Cobb County land. That's just ugly.
Well, that happened in the 60s. Fortunately, I think the county has improved considerably since then, though of course it still has some ways to go, and new leadership would certainly help.

A cynic could also say that Sandy Springs was founded, in part, for the same reason.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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At this rate, the City of Atlanta should reach 500k by 2020, assuming that the estimates are widely correct and there's no counting difficulties like there were in 2010.

- skbl17
Exactly. Atlanta's historic "peak" population was in the 2009 estimates, lol.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Well, that happened in the 60s. Fortunately, I think the county has improved considerably since then, though of course it still has some ways to go, and new leadership would certainly help.

A cynic could also say that Sandy Springs was founded, in part, for the same reason.
Atlanta's drain came in the 70s. Sorry, don't have time to go look it up for the exact numbers, but the 1960 population was 487k, 1970 was 495k.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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I understand, primaltech, and I'm not criticizing you.

I'm just amazed at how much debate we have about MARTA.
It's always the same handful of contributors
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:39 AM
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Yes, he did indeed do so. I think that the mayor was in denial as I personally was to some degree initially as well. Mix that in with not totally understanding the factors at work in the population count discrepancy, I failed to understand how the count could be so widely different than the various estimates that were put out year by year prior to the actual census count in 2010.
I agree with your other concerns as expressed here.
Well the boosters got involved and convinced the Census Bureau to raise their estimates. There were some articles on it in the AJC at the time the census came out.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:41 AM
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Isn't even really about transportation, to be honest. The north suburbs try to disconnect and disassociate with Atlanta at every turn, while also reaping the benefits of proximity to Atlanta.

I mean, Cobb created a 10 foot city just to prevent the city of Atlanta from annexing any Cobb County land. That's just ugly.
That's not uncommon. A lot of suburban and rural areas don't want to be part of the big bad city. And its not just big central cities they avoid being part of. There is a city south of Houston called Manvel that used to stretch in a lot of thin strips along county roads to avoid being annexed by anyone else, especially Houston, but also Pearland and Missouri City.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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That's not uncommon. A lot of suburban and rural areas don't want to be part of the big bad city. And its not just big central cities they avoid being part of. There is a city south of Houston called Manvel that used to stretch in a lot of thin strips along county roads to avoid being annexed by anyone else, especially Houston, but also Pearland and Missouri City.
It works both ways, too.

If big old mean Cobb wanted to start gobbling up chunks of the city of Atlanta and ruling them from Marietta, there's little doubt that the folks downtown would attempt evasive and/or blocking action.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Point is, "Atlanta" is a region, that needs to start thinking and acting like one, in a unified way.

Atlanta proper is supposed to be the core and main attraction of that region, and the suburbs around it, in all counties, should embrace their main city. And embrace the fact that they are suburbs of it.

And the state should also embrace and appreciate their major city. All of the internal opposition is maddening, between all these local government parties that should be working together. Need to figure it all out, quit hating on each other, or we're going to get left in the dust by cities like Dallas.
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