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Old 05-19-2016, 11:02 AM
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Point is, "Atlanta" is a region, that needs to start thinking and acting like one, in a unified way.

Atlanta proper is supposed to be the core and main attraction of that region, and the suburbs around it, in all counties, should embrace their main city. And embrace the fact that they are suburbs of it.

And the state should also embrace and appreciate their major city. All of the internal opposition is maddening, between all these local government parties that should be working together. Need to figure it all out, quit hating on each other, or we're going to get left in the dust by cities like Dallas.
There's far more hostility coming out of the center than from the suburbs toward the center.

Atlanta needs to quit thinking the rest of the region needs to serve it and work together for common goals that help all of the region, not just one part. It may help when Mayor Reed gets out. Tim Lee getting out of his job in Cobb could also help.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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Atlanta proper is supposed to be the core and main attraction of that region, and the suburbs around it, in all counties, should embrace their main city. And embrace the fact that they are suburbs of it.
Who decreed that it is "supposed to be" that way?

I don't mean that in an impertinent way, I'm simply asking why you believe that model is the one that should be followed?

The fact is that Atlanta grew by over 5 million people, while the central city was in marked decline. We became a national powerhouse through the massive growth of the suburbs, not the central city.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:30 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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Figures for the remaining ITP cities:

East Point - 35,467, up 1,755 since 2010
College Park - 14,601, up 659 since 2010
Hapeville - 6,650, up 277 since 2010
(If the Tri-Cities were one city, it's population would be 56718 making it the 5th largest city in the metro.)

Decatur - 21,957, up 2622 since 2010
Clarkston - 12,215, up 4,661 since 2010 (also the densest city in Georgia...though that doesn't mean much.)
Chamblee - 28,244, up 18352 since 2010 (WOW, Chamblee tripled in population in the span of 3 years. And someone on another thread said Chamblee wasn't booming.)
Doraville - 10,896, up 2566 since 2010
Avondale Estates - 3,139, up 179 since 2010
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Figures for the remaining ITP cities:

East Point - 35,467, up 1,755 since 2010
College Park - 14,601, up 659 since 2010
Hapeville - 6,650, up 277 since 2010
(If the Tri-Cities were one city, it's population would be 56718 making it the 5th largest city in the metro.)

Decatur - 21,957, up 2622 since 2010
Clarkston - 12,215, up 4,661 since 2010 (also the densest city in Georgia...though that doesn't mean much.)
Chamblee - 28,244, up 18352 since 2010 (WOW, Chamblee tripled in population in the span of 3 years. And someone on another thread said Chamblee wasn't booming.)
Doraville - 10,896, up 2566 since 2010
Avondale Estates - 3,139, up 179 since 2010
Chamblee has had two large annexations since the census. Its footprint has to be 2 or 3 times it previous area.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Historic West End
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Regardless of how the surburbs has grown, people from other places will always identify with Atlanta (skyline) as the core of region. However, I'm most please that Atlanta is progressing in lieu of those that want it to fail. Exciting times ahead for Downtown, Midtown, and Bucky.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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There's far more hostility coming out of the center than from the suburbs toward the center.
More like, reactionary resentment.


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The fact is that Atlanta grew by over 5 million people, while the central city was in marked decline.
The central city provided the major commercial airport, distribution and logistics, industrial jobs, medical infrastructure, university infrastructure, shopping and entertainment, and of course an emphasis on tall buildings and office space, all of which directly enabled that primarily residential oriented suburban growth around it. Population decline is not the same thing as importance decline.

Then some (not all) of the residents of those surrounding dependent areas, chose to thank the city by disdaining it, for the fact that it contained poor people, black people, gay people, and an inevitable higher crime rate than their quiet suburbs.

Anyway, there's a bright future ahead for this area if we all try to respect each other's areas of the metro. I'll start by saying that I like both Cobb and Atlanta, and I think of myself as a resident of both. But I just think Cobb needs some leadership change.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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Chamblee has had two large annexations since the census. Its footprint has to be 2 or 3 times it previous area.
Ah, wasn't aware of that.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Who decreed that it is "supposed to be" that way?

I don't mean that in an impertinent way, I'm simply asking why you believe that model is the one that should be followed?

The fact is that Atlanta grew by over 5 million people, while the central city was in marked decline. We became a national powerhouse through the massive growth of the suburbs, not the central city.
Atlanta was/is the economic, cultural,transportation and entertainment hub that is the catalyst for the growth of the rest of the region in all directions. Without it you would not have had the explosive regional/suburban growth that has taken place over the last 50 years or so. All cities go through declines at one point or another but Atlanta was not in decline for long, and now is definitely headed in a very positive direction

Just a few examples of many.

Hartsfield Jackson International Airport
The Olympics
Coca Cola
Georgia Pacific
Georgia Tech
Emory University
Spelman
Morehouse
Emory & Piedmont Hospitals
Atlanta Braves
Atlanta Hawks
Atlanta Falcons
Georgia Aquarium
Fox Theatre
High Museum
Piedmont Park
Ritz Carlton

IMHO the growth of places like Sandy Springs,Roswell, Johns Creek,etc would not have taken place without a strong hub like Atlanta. In addition when most suburban residents are asked where they live they usually say Atlanta!
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Avondale Estates - 3,139, up 179 since 2010
Avondale is on fire.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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In addition when most suburban residents are asked where they live they usually say Atlanta!
This is because MOST people view it ALL as Atlanta or the Atlanta Metro Area, and they are not familiar with the multitude of suburbs and communities and neighborhoods by name.
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