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Old 09-07-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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I'm with you. I would like to see it happen in some sort of capacity but it's no skin off my back until then. I know talk about the metro is totally legit in this forum, but if that map showcasing the commuting patterns of Cobb residents you posted earlier is accurate, this has little effect on what really matters, the CoA.
Yep. Let MARTA focus on maximizing transit in its existing service area. Flood the zone with hundreds of new buses, improve the routes, bring in the latest technology, maybe add some infill train stations, coordinate with the Beltline and the streetcar, partner with last mile services like Uber, build out more TOD, keep the heat up on eliminating waste, etc., etc.

I don't see much benefit in spreading MARTA even thinner when folks are still lukewarm about it at best.
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Easy to say, "let Cobb be Cobb", when you don't live in the county.

They're having this transit talk at 5:30 on a weekday. Ironically, I can't make that, because of traffic. I usually don't even leave Alpharetta until 7:00 anymore, or it's just a crawl on 285.

I'm tired of having no regional transit in the metropolitan area. I live inside the perimeter, just outside Atlanta city limits, not out in the boondocks. I want mass transit options.

Any "talk" that doesn't accomplish that, is a joke. Quit talking, start acting.
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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I'm with you. I would like to see it happen in some sort of capacity but it's no skin off my back until then. I know talk about the metro is totally legit in this forum, but if that map showcasing the commuting patterns of Cobb residents you posted earlier is accurate, this has little effect on what really matters, the CoA.
That ignores the entire part of the map that shows people going to Midtown and Downtown, which were well represented as destinations. That also ignores all the Atlantians going to Cobb for work. That ALSO ignores Amy future growth and growth of commiters as the city continues to densifies and add jobs.
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Then you have to see that, without massive additional funding, CCT will not offer the same internal service that MARTA would.

How do y'all u know that this meeting isn't, in part, the result of external pressure as well as internal?
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Welp, I'm thinking I am recalling the map wrong then, cause I thought the numbers were very low. My only concern is getting cars off the road in the city, and the loop to a lesser extent. Not to be rude, it just doesn't bother me what happens in Cobb, Gwinnett, N Fulton, etc and I wouldn't be that upset if they don't join MARTA.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Welp, I'm thinking I am recalling the map wrong then, cause I thought the numbers were very low. My only concern is getting cars off the road in the city, and the loop to a lesser extent. Not to be rude, it just doesn't bother me what happens in Cobb, Gwinnett, N Fulton, etc and I wouldn't be that upset if they don't join MARTA.


It's a non-insignificant anout, especially when adding 'CoA to Cobb' traffic ad well. And then pile on growth, and I think the route would be well used, especially when coupled with local bus and BRT and other local transit feeding into the Heavy rail backbone. That's, as always, the network effect that makes transit useful.

I do find it odd that you state you want to reduce traffic / change driving patterns, yet also say you don't care if Cobb, North Fulton, or Gwinnett expand MARTA. Transit access and the ability to not drive to carry on life are deeply intertwined in a metro of our scale.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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That ignores the entire part of the map that shows people going to Midtown and Downtown, which were well represented as destinations. That also ignores all the Atlantians going to Cobb for work. That ALSO ignores Amy future growth and growth of commiters as the city continues to densifies and add jobs.
The bulk of Cobb commuting is intra-county. Only about 10% head into Midtown or downtown.

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Old 09-07-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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The bulk of Cobb commuting is intra-county. Only about 10% head into Midtown or downtown.
So you gonna leave out the Perimeter, airport, Buckhead, Etc lol
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Easy to say, "let Cobb be Cobb", when you don't live in the county.

They're having this transit talk at 5:30 on a weekday. Ironically, I can't make that, because of traffic. I usually don't even leave Alpharetta until 7:00 anymore, or it's just a crawl on 285.

I'm tired of having no regional transit in the metropolitan area. I live inside the perimeter, just outside Atlanta city limits, not out in the boondocks. I want mass transit options.
What sort of transit would you recommend for getting folks from Cobb to to Alpharetta and back?
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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A HUGE chunk of Cobb residents work at Perimeter and Alpharetta.

I assume a large share of Buckhead office workers live in Cobb as well.
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The bulk of Cobb commuting is intra-county. Only about 10% head into Midtown or downtown.
I calculate up to 18.8% of Cobb commuters drive to areas that are CURRENTLY served by MARTA rail (Airport, Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Perimeter)
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