Is the MARTA utilized to its fullest? (Atlanta, East Point: apartment, to rent)

[JPD]

Originally Posted by plessthanpointohfive

You mean the MSA, right?

I've never heard of "the MSA". What's that?

To clarify, I mistakenly read that as "1/2 mile", and not "1/2 mile radius". Big difference. So, I'm wrong about the number of areas that fit the description. However, the area I mentioned before (in Lawrenceville) I would argue is more walkable than, say, Grant Park, in terms of what types of stores/restaurants/services are located within X number of feet.

[CityFan]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

I use CCT Express so I understand there's some value, but it wouldn't take that many cars off the road via my statements above about the density of Atlanta and Cobb, and where people actually work. Transit just wouldn't get them to their jobs and if it could, it still wouldn't be convenient.

Then on top of that, you're going to force people to pay for it.

Many taxes are compulsory, such as taxes for school and income taxes which you don't know where the money be used eventually. We should have a law to impose some taxes and use it to develop community regardless how each idiviaul wants. You never get great projects done if you have to get every single vote. A lot of people are narrow minded. If they can get away to not pay for school taxes, they will refuse to pay since they don't have school age kids. Can we allow them? Surely not. I think if we want good things to happen in the community, we do need impose some taxes at management discretion. Atlanta could have been much more developed than today if we had more streched MARTA lines. If there wasn't MARTA reaching in Buckhead and Downwoody, you wouldn't see the development in those areas. Oh well, who cares. Those people who are narrow minded would say that. It's about economy and growth of Atlanta.

[plessthanpointohfive]

Metropolitan Statistical Area

Because I think the city of Atlanta, the city proper, is pretty walkable to any basic daily need....maybe not 100% of the city, but quite a bit...

And it depends on what you define as a walkable distance. And that might depend from person to person based on their idea of how long it should take.

I have no issue with walking 1.5 miles to anything at all.

[CityFan]

Originally Posted by JPD

There are very few places in Atlanta that fit that description.

True. Therefore, there are very few walkable places in Atlanta. It's a car dependent city. It's a sad fact.

[gt6974a]

Originally Posted by CityFan

If there wasn't MARTA reaching in Buckhead and Downwoody, you wouldn't see the development in those areas.

Yeah all those millionaire's in Buckhead really benefited from Marta....especially that one rail stop.

So what happened with all the other rail stops in Atlanta, they're not developed like Buckhead and Dunwoody?

The number of people who actully work in Buckhead and ride Marta is minimal compared to number who work there and drive.

[plessthanpointohfive]

egg, meet chicken.

chicken, meet egg.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

I use CCT Express so I understand there's some value, but it wouldn't take that many cars off the road via my statements above about the density of Atlanta and Cobb, and where people actually work. Transit just wouldn't get them to their jobs and if it could, it still wouldn't be convenient.

I dunno -- run a light rail line along Cobb Parkway or perhaps paralleling 75, and run another from Cumberland to Austell or perhaps Douglassville along the E/W connector and perhaps up along Barrett Parkway, and I'll bet you see some ridership on Cobb County.

[gt6974a]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

I dunno -- run a light rail line along Cobb Parkway or perhaps paralleling 75, and run another from Cumberland to Austell or perhaps Douglassville along the E/W connector and perhaps up along Barrett Parkway, and I'll bet you see some ridership on Cobb County.

Well, there's rail that runs along 400 and 85 and those roads are worse than 75....It goes back to density and job location.

[CityFan]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

Well, there's rail that runs along 400 and 85 and those roads are worse than 75....It goes back to density and job location.

They will be dicovered and developed once all land in Buckhead and Dunwoody is built out. High density is like radiation spreading out from center, rather than happening at the same time in the entire city. Demand has not built up to the point yet.

[blackrabbit]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

They get 1% sales from Fulton and Dekalb, how is that not alot??? Try 65% of Marta revenu which equates to 345 Million of the 530 Million total. Only 20% was in actual fares @ 106 Million

Cobb residents, unlike Fulton and Dekalb, get to vote on voluntarily taxing themselves with a temporary 1% sales tax for SPLOST projects. These usually pass somewhere around 55%. No way in Hell are they going to tax themselves for rail they won't use.

OK to follow your logic if Cobb residents won't pay taxes for rail they don't use then why should Fulton residences pay to widen roads so Cobb residents can have an easier comute and wear out the roads with their SUVs?

A toll on the border sounds fair right?