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Old 11-04-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: East Point
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I wonder if GDOT will add any lights to this interchange. My guess is that they won't.

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hopefully some nice new LED high masts. 400 really needs to be lit all the way up at least to the north springs MARTA station. there is too much merging and chaos going on for those pathetic road reflectors to do the job (they keep getting knocked out, too). it's impossible at night to tell what lane you're in going north on 400 just past the interchange. that whole thing is just a mess.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:11 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Good, left exits are more dangerous than normal, and especially dangerous at major junctions. After this, I expect the I-20/I-285 interchange on the west side to be reconfigured.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Alpharetta
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I live on Ashford Dunwoody and take 400 daily (north) to work so this *shouldn't* affect me too much going to work. Now coming home will be hell especially when they start messing around with the Abernathy interchange.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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...So the state waits 25 years and ends up paying over $800 million for a project that they probably could have gotten done for only $100 million or so back in 1990....Something which of course makes perfect sense (sarcasm intended).
Doesn't this just speak to a greater problem in our metro? It seems like instead of doing any kind of realistic forecasting and planning for the future, our leaders just respond to problems after they occur. That makes fixing them more expensive, and I assume, time consuming.

Contrast that with Florida. Drive between Jacksonville and St. Augustine on US 1 and you'll see flyover ramps being constructed and major roadwork. It's easy to wonder why such major work is happening in an area that could more or less be described as rural. It's because the state knows that the Nocatee area is being developed and will probably have a population of around 50,000 in 20 or 30 years. Instead of waiting for them to all move in and then saying, "Uh, I guess we'll need to build roads to accommodate all of this," they're doing it now when the construction projects aren't disrupting much. They'll have all the road capacity they need to serve residents for a very long time, all because the state actually thought ahead a little bit.

I always learned in Florida that the transportation department is extremely well funded because the economy is based on tourism. They know that if traffic gets awful, people will just stop coming to Florida and the economy will collapse.

I wonder why we can't get the same idea through our heads. Atlanta is a logistics hub, and I would think that traffic could eventually reach a critical mass where all the freight companies just say "we're losing too much money sitting in traffic" and they move elsewhere. Not to mention that people just won't want to live here. I already know a few people who have left the city because traffic is too much of a hassle.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Doesn't this just speak to a greater problem in our metro? It seems like instead of doing any kind of realistic forecasting and planning for the future, our leaders just respond to problems after they occur. That makes fixing them more expensive, and I assume, time consuming.

Contrast that with Florida. Drive between Jacksonville and St. Augustine on US 1 and you'll see flyover ramps being constructed and major roadwork. It's easy to wonder why such major work is happening in an area that could more or less be described as rural. It's because the state knows that the Nocatee area is being developed and will probably have a population of around 50,000 in 20 or 30 years. Instead of waiting for them to all move in and then saying, "Uh, I guess we'll need to build roads to accommodate all of this," they're doing it now when the construction projects aren't disrupting much. They'll have all the road capacity they need to serve residents for a very long time, all because the state actually thought ahead a little bit.

I always learned in Florida that the transportation department is extremely well funded because the economy is based on tourism. They know that if traffic gets awful, people will just stop coming to Florida and the economy will collapse.

I wonder why we can't get the same idea through our heads. Atlanta is a logistics hub, and I would think that traffic could eventually reach a critical mass where all the freight companies just say "we're losing too much money sitting in traffic" and they move elsewhere. Not to mention that people just won't want to live here. I already know a few people who have left the city because traffic is too much of a hassle.
If there is one state we should not be using as an example, it's Florida. They did not handle or plan the rapid growth of the 20th century well. It is the poster child of sprawl. It has huge water issues, yet has Lake O, Everglades, Kississmee River, St Johns River, etc. Besides Miami's 1 line MetroRail, there is no REAL high capacity transit system.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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What about SunRail?
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Doesn't this just speak to a greater problem in our metro? It seems like instead of doing any kind of realistic forecasting and planning for the future, our leaders just respond to problems after they occur. That makes fixing them more expensive, and I assume, time consuming.
Regarding 285/400, its been in the state's long-range plans for about the last 20-25 years (pretty much since 400 was extended, but kept getting delayed due to lack of funding.

I'd also love to know where B2R got the $100 million figure and whether or not it would've included construction of the C-D lanes up to Spalding/between Roswell Road and Ashford-Dunwoody.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Lordy, was on 285 earlier today. That highway desperately needs restriping as does much of Peachtree St through Midtown.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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What about SunRail?
You use SunRail as an example and skip TriRail? That just shows me you know nothing about it.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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I'm definitely no expert on rail in Florida...but that's not the topic of this thread, no matter how much you want to derail it and pontificate your perspective that no transportation plan that doesn't include rail has any merit.
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