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Old 11-16-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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Which is why states have their own army and air state guards, Capitals, residency laws, etc. governors also go on their own trade missions to other sovereign states around the globe!
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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No more than you were when you spewed that nonsense about the states being sovereign nations. Self-ratifying claptrap doesn't get an unrebutted soapbox.
What they were: Political entities with their own governments. They realized that there were common interests that a union would serve to better protect: defense (piracy was a huge issue at the time), adjudication between states, and other very clearly defined purposes per the Constitution, which, by the way, THEY created.
I've come to the conclusion that anyone on here that cannot get a grip on this is either disingenuous or outright stupid.
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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Seriously though, out of curiosity, how old are you? Most adults seem to have Been taught the basics of, and benefits of, the electoral college.
What does your age or education level have to do with your acceptance of the electoral college? Just because you were taught "the benefits" of it, doesn't mean that you are required to accept those apparent benefits as fact. The benefit of something is purely subjective.
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Maybe that's what I like about the Electoral College system. It somewhat diminishes the clusters of population influence, and "spreads" out the power a bit. Otherwise all the presidents would pander to urban politics because that would be all that matters.
All they do now is pander to a small minority of states. What's the difference?
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:59 PM
 
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All they do now is pander to a small minority of states. What's the difference?
I'm not sure I agree. But states are larger and more diverse entities than cities.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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All they do now is pander to a small minority of states. What's the difference?
It used to be Ohio and Florida - and maybe North Carolina - were the "pander" states b/c the parties just assume certain states are givens. This was the democrat's downfall this cycle - they became complacent and assumed the GOP could NEVER "break the blue wall" as the main stream media put it.

Trump put more states in play than any other GOP candidate since Reagan so moving forward I'm not sure any of us can speculate. Maybe his yet to be implemented actions on illegal immigration could put texas in play for the democrats? its doubtful but who knows?

Despite all that the electoral college is here to stay, at least for this cycle, and with the majority of power with the GOP from state to federal I dont see that changing any time soon...
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