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Old 11-10-2016, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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Sure your vote counts.
Negative. I voted for Clinton in GA. My vote did not count at all, it was utterly irrelevant to the outcome.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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Negative. I voted for Clinton in GA. My vote did not count at all, it was utterly irrelevant to the outcome.
Literally it doesn't count. Just like the people who voted for Trump in CT (not me) didn't count whatsoever.

The system is outdated and based on it's history was brought about for some real slimy reasons. One man - One vote.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Negative. I voted for Clinton in GA. My vote did not count at all, it was utterly irrelevant to the outcome.
So what if you lived in NY? Everyone knew it it go heavily in favor of Clinton, so really it could be argued that your vote would be irrelevant there as well; so why bother to vote?
You didn't get the result you wanted; it is not a reason to abstain from voting.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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So what if you lived in NY? Everyone knew it it go heavily in favor of Clinton, so really it could be argued that your vote would be irrelevant there as well; so why bother to vote?
You didn't get the result you wanted; it is not a reason to abstain from voting.
This is why ranked voting needs to be in place, as well as a myriad of other representative based systems that far better reflect the diversity of political opinions within a state, let alone the country.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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So what if you lived in NY? Everyone knew it it go heavily in favor of Clinton, so really it could be argued that your vote would be irrelevant there as well; so why bother to vote?
You didn't get the result you wanted; it is not a reason to abstain from voting.
That's not what I said. I agree with the bolded, and as I stated, I did indeed vote even knowing my vote would not count.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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That's not what I said. I agree with the bolded, and as I stated, I did indeed vote even knowing my vote would not count.
Just because Mrs. Clinton did not win in Georgia does not mean that your and my votes did not count. Sure they counted, but Mr. Trump simply received more votes in Georgia. Had she won, Mr. Trump's supporters could say that their votes did not count. That, too, would not be correct.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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Just because Mrs. Clinton did not win in Georgia does not mean that your and my votes did not count. Sure they counted, but Mr. Trump simply received more votes in Georgia. Had she won, Mr. Trump's supporters could say that their votes did not count. That, too, would not be correct.
It is exactly correct. A Democratic vote in a Republican stronghold doesn't count as long as there are more Republican votes than Democratic votes. When there is such a massive gap between the two, you have this issue.

Presidents should be decided by everyone. One man, one vote. The only place your votes count and are within reach of actually mattering are in swing states.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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One man, one vote.

Electoral colleges are nonsense.
Then I suppose so is the Constitution? Like it or not, it is the framework of our system. To throw it out would result in absolute chaos in this country.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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Then I suppose so is the Constitution? Like it or not, it is the framework of our system. To throw it out would result in absolute chaos in this country.
To throw that out (amend it specifically) would be the definition of democracy. Everyone's votes should count equally.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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To throw that out (amend it specifically) would be the definition of democracy. Everyone's votes should count equally.
Once again, we are NOT a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic, as has been stated and explained ad nauseum in this thread.
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