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Old 12-14-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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You should be asking your home state if TX when will they get heavy rail instead of worrying about us
I don't know, fieldm. I think he / she raises a few pretty good questions.
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Old 12-16-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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I no longer live in Atlanta but what I see is lot of development but where the hell is the INFRASTRUCTURE to support all this new vertical development!? No new rail lines. No new major highways (ye olde Outer perimeter that's been discussed for 20 years). And when's the last time Georgia built a reservoir!?
How in the world is building an outer Perimeter going to mitigate density in Midtown?

If you're going to build density, Midtown is certainly the kind of place to build it. There are four heavy rail transit stations and an umpteen-lane highway running right next to the district so the infrastructure already exists. Midtown is taking the approach of improving access for alternative forms of transportation within the district which will be required as it increases in density and has undertaken an extensive transportation plan that addresses all modes.


http://midtowntransportationplan.com/
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I no longer live in Atlanta but what I see is lot of development but where the hell is the INFRASTRUCTURE to support all this new vertical development!? No new rail lines. No new major highways (ye olde Outer perimeter that's been discussed for 20 years). And when's the last time Georgia built a reservoir!?
Basic street maintenance has never been worse in Atlanta. Horrible potholes in Midtown, dozens per street haven't been filled from last Winter. Damaged, crooked signs are the norm, faded street name signs, in a word...PRIMITIVE!

And it's amazing that developers and newcomers to the buildings don't demand better street/sidewalk conditions. The horrible state of the streets crisscrossing all this new development is truly an oxymoron.

Heading up West Ptree to Buford Hwy Conn. the other day I noticed that the overhead green signs at the split should be duplicated or moved back so people have time to make lane decisions.

The sign doesn't help much at the split when you're already committed to either side.

And Buford Hwy Conn. Southbound always is backed up at the exit to the Connector.

If GDOT operated like the ones in the civilized states, they would have maxed out the ramp distance and made it 2 lanes where space allowed to get as many cars out of the way of Buford Hwy Conn.'s traffic.

No one is ever out there analyzing and improving.
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: In your feelings
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No one is ever out there analyzing and improving.
My favorite part of city data is the people who only show up when they need to get something off their chests.
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Basic street maintenance has never been worse in Atlanta. Horrible potholes in Midtown, dozens per street haven't been filled from last Winter. Damaged, crooked signs are the norm, faded street name signs, in a word...PRIMITIVE!

And it's amazing that developers and newcomers to the buildings don't demand better street/sidewalk conditions. The horrible state of the streets crisscrossing all this new development is truly an oxymoron.

Heading up West Ptree to Buford Hwy Conn. the other day I noticed that the overhead green signs at the split should be duplicated or moved back so people have time to make lane decisions.

The sign doesn't help much at the split when you're already committed to either side.

And Buford Hwy Conn. Southbound always is backed up at the exit to the Connector.

If GDOT operated like the ones in the civilized states, they would have maxed out the ramp distance and made it 2 lanes where space allowed to get as many cars out of the way of Buford Hwy Conn.'s traffic.

No one is ever out there analyzing and improving.
If no one reports the faded signs and pavement markings, CoA has little way of knowing. Also, those overhead signs are GDOT
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If no one reports the faded signs and pavement markings, CoA has little way of knowing. Also, those overhead signs are GDOT
What world do you live in where tax-payer funded public works departments and DOTs go out and build roads, erect signs and install streetlights but don't take inventory or keep track of working status and not delegate upkeep responsibilities to it's paid employees?

You must be a Georgia native...

And this asinine separation of agencies and responsibilities for roads, streetlights and litter removal should have addressed after the snow-apocalypse.

The State and city should have retooled a coalescing of agencies to better serve the taxpayers.

That's why the rest of the country couldn't comprehend how big of a fail Georgia's preparedness was...

Drought 2.0... how many new reservoirs have been built since 2007 drought? Was nothing done following that crisis?
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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What world do you live in where tax-payer funded public works departments and DOTs go out and build roads, erect signs and install streetlights but don't take inventory or keep track of working status and not delegate upkeep responsibilities to it's paid employees?

You must be a Georgia native...

And this asinine separation of agencies and responsibilities for roads, streetlights and litter removal should have addressed after the snow-apocalypse.

The State and city should have retooled a coalescing of agencies to better serve the taxpayers.

That's why the rest of the country couldn't comprehend how big of a fail Georgia's preparedness was...

Drought 2.0... how many new reservoirs have been built since 2007 drought? Was nothing done following that crisis?
Well CoA DWM is building the Bellwood Quarry as a 30 day supply, that can be extended to 90 days. But your concerns go above just one city or county, these are state issues that lawmakers refuse to fund or look into
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Historic West End
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What world do you live in where tax-payer funded public works departments and DOTs go out and build roads, erect signs and install streetlights but don't take inventory or keep track of working status and not delegate upkeep responsibilities to it's paid employees?

You must be a Georgia native...

And this asinine separation of agencies and responsibilities for roads, streetlights and litter removal should have addressed after the snow-apocalypse.

The State and city should have retooled a coalescing of agencies to better serve the taxpayers.

That's why the rest of the country couldn't comprehend how big of a fail Georgia's preparedness was...

Drought 2.0... how many new reservoirs have been built since 2007 drought? Was nothing done following that crisis?
I love your post. That why I fear if a real disaster was to hit the city. Imagine the gridlock and confusion that will be create. Remember Brian Nichols who practically was able to ride through the city after the court shooting because the county, city, and state were on different communication frequencies. The State has the overall jurisdiction to bring everything together.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Drivers don't want to pay enough to properly maintain roads. We have too many lane-miles of roads cover areas with too few tax payers.

Unless the road is privatized / tolled expect potholes / poor maitance to be a reality for most of Atlanta.
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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Can we get back on topic please?
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